Dover Express - failed again...
- 27 June 2013 08:52235122I really don't know why they keep the name. Their lack of Dover knowledge is outstanding, they really do not know what goes on in the town now they don't even have offices here. Jobsworths with no real interest in the town an more. Very different to Terry Sutton's day when they even reported council meetings.
Nothing about the Pencester Armed Forces Day even before or after. - Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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27 June 2013 09:01235124On that so called community paper w agreeALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 27 June 2013 09:06235126Yes must agree with the above post the paper does nothing for Dover as Mr Williams has pointed out years ago when they had their offices in Dover and yes when I nearly drown in the port at the age of 11 Mr Sutton was out to my house with in a hour of it happing for astory but that was the good old days of the job of a reporter,now they expect you to go to them with a story or report of a events to even a "We might put it in " there are no local reporters like the old ones,Mr Sutton and I do not see eye to eye but on saying that the old boy is still going around with note book and pen,when he packs up I think we will see the end of the Dover Express,they should drop the name Dover and call it the East-Kent -News,.
- Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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27 June 2013 09:10235128Old style reporting in the very early Terry Sutton days, and other reporters, plus an office in the town, did a lot to make the paper newsworthy
since then a new editor came in shut the office, sensationalised stories that realy were non events
and moved away from locals
on top of that having run articles on others errors
they produced pictures and stories that did not relate to each other
The papers gone down hill
but hey, its not the first time iv said itALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 27 June 2013 09:47235135BarryW, our apologies from the Express for not covering this. We are very thin on the ground this week, but this was our mistake and a big one.
But I'm afraid the proportion of towns with newspaper offices in them is tiny these days, and we are also certainly not Jobsworths - all we care about is getting out a good paper out that the people of Dover will like, and sometimes we fall short.
Finally, I have been to three key council meetings in the last fortnight and not seen another reporter there.
As I said this particular mistake was a big one but it's not because we're not working hard and not caring about the town.jamierose - 27 June 2013 10:19235138Picked it up to day 15 pages of local stuff before the ads and house sales
Don't think it could be accused of not covering Dover aria news.
The local mp covered every week and a big letters page not to bad .
Agree missing the Armed Forces Day not good, and the price is creping up a bit - 27 June 2013 11:42235159fair points raised by jamie, the express has put it's collective hands up and apologised - not much more that can be said.
none of us get everything right. - Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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27 June 2013 11:47235160To a point I agree with you howard,
but this same paper ridicules others when they get things wrong
yet itself produces articles with the wrong pictureALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 27 June 2013 12:08235166Personally, the Express has always covered events for me when I have sent in appropriate PR requests.
Out of interest BarryW, were they informed regarding Armed Forces Day or did you just expect them to cover it?"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum" - Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
27 June 2013 12:13235167jamierose wrote:BarryW, our apologies from the Express for not covering this. We are very thin on the ground this week, but this was our mistake and a big one.
This event is one of the biggest that takes place slap bang in the centre of town and was well publicised in advance so in my opinion there is no possible excuse for not giving extensive coverage in a local paper that carries this towns name.
No wonder people do not buy it.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 27 June 2013 13:06235172GaryC - I am no longer running it and though technically still on the committee was not able to attend the meetings so I do not know. The new chairman was given all contacts and the Mercury, who did cover the event, would have had the same information as the Mercury.
- 27 June 2013 13:26235173FYI we did not receive a press release about the event, but that is no excuse.
Jan, go look at some recent sales figuresjamierose - 27 June 2013 13:33235174Perhaps the numbers have picked up in 2013...
"Just 13 paid-for weeklies across the UK recorded circulation increases in the final six months of 2012, the latest figures reveal....The worst results were recorded at the fully paid-for Dover Express, which saw a massive 69.3pc drop in sales, down to 6,294."
http://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2013/news/sales-increase-at-just-13-paid-for-weeklies/Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 27 June 2013 13:56235176Sadly my Press Release for the Western Heights Open Weekend was ignored too and one of the photos sent in reused in an unrelated article. This is very disappointing to us as our visitor numbers were consequently down this year and many people stated that that they did not know it was on as it was not in the paper. We may as well pack up if our events are not publicised and attended as we almost completely rely on them to finance our projects.
It was particularly disappointing as I have written articles for the Express at the drop of a hat recently so it would be nice to receive support in return.
Granted there was a brief mention of the weekend, using Claire Hawkins' pictures and quotes mainly about the CGI development, printed last week, but that's too late to get people in through the door. Also WHPS were not even mentioned as hosting the event.
I hope this is just a temporary glitch this year and that matters improve. Some of our local volunteer groups rely on support from the papers! - 27 June 2013 15:14235186Kill 2 birds with one stone.
1 for the Forum and 1 for Jamie and the Express,
Kent Miners Festival August Bank Holiday Monday 2013
The new, Kent Miners Festival Committee, have been working hard all year, to organize this FREE local community event. This year it is being held at the "Tilmanstone Colliery Welfare Ground" from 10am till 5pm and is to commemorate the "Centenary of Coaling at Tilmanstone Colliery".
In its fifth year and previously attended by thousands, we are pleased to bring this event to yet another different, mining community area that is connected with the former Kent Coalfield.Giving our communities the opportunity, for them to socialise with former colleagues and families and family friends, is what it is all about.
Giving something back to the people, from within those communities, is what we want to achieve.
Getting local heritage groups, charities, health and well-being groups, to come along and take part, to make this a true community event, is what we are all hoping for.
Our Collieries have long since disappeared but not our communities or our community spirit. They survive and will continue to survive, thanks to the support shown from within these communities.
Moving the Miners Statue onto the Miners Way Trail, setting up Heritage Centres at Aylesham, open Wednesdays 10am till 2pm and now at Elvington, open on Tuesdays 10am till 2pm, are promoting and preserving our Kent Mining History. East Kent Railway is attempting to bring back steam to our Mining Heritage Railway, with renovating the St Dunstan Loco that worked for so many years at Snowdown Colliery. With plans for Betteshanger being announced later this year, put all these together and we are certain that the story of the 'Kent Miner' is not finished yet.
To continue with all this good work, we need your help. Organizing a free community event is not easy. We are always in need of funding and donations. However, there are many other ways in which you can help. We need help with organizing now and on the day. Marshalling, selling programmes and raffle prizes. We need raffle prizes, stalls, charities, local youth groups, dance groups, acrobats and any other local talent, to come along and entertain our visitors. Bring along your dogs and join in the community dog show. 5 a-side football, tug-o-war, budding bowlers and other sporting events all being organized and need teams to apply?
Brass and Silver Bands are the theme for this year, so if you are involved with anything like this or similar, please contact me.
If you want to take part or help in any way you can, please contact me?
Gary: - kentminersfestival@sky.com or 07800545135
Visit: - www.kentminersfestival.org.uk"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum" - 27 June 2013 17:05235187I was there for over 2 Hours on Saturday and again on Sunday .No mention in the Mercury.
- Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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- Posts: 23,940
27 June 2013 18:58235199and it was nice to see you out and about sue. - 27 June 2013 19:13235203here again is the photo brian took last saturday of sue in discussion with ted.
- 27 June 2013 20:3023521316, normally the Chairman's choice of headgear gets a mention....I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
- Andy B
- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
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27 June 2013 20:39235214The Dover Express is fast becoming very dissapointing.Lots of local events that i would expect to be covered dont even seem to get a mention,and no mention of the armed forces event because of the lack of reporters etc is no excuse,its all very sad.The Dover Express is the only paper that i ever buy,i dont bother with the daily papers.The quality of the express is getting worse and i may not buy it for much longer.
