Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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23 February 2011
12:5593885Not so We at the LRCF do not and will not have pressure from any council or policy the LRCF is there just for needs of the community and run by the community.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,897
23 February 2011
13:0993886Re community groups etc.
Before I joined this wonderful site, which I discovered by pure chance while surfing the net , I had never heard of the vast majority of the forums and other groups that get mentioned every so often. How can the public get involved if they do not know such groups exist. Is there a group that covers Salisbury Road, I have never heard of one.
This is what the group organisers have to address if they want more of us humble mortals to get involved.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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23 February 2011
13:1793887i never knew there was a "castle forum" until they took a marquee at the regatta weekend.
are you sure that you do not come under l.r.c.f jan?
in fact you qualify as you work in the area.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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23 February 2011
13:2593889I'm in a community group that took an idea of our own to DDC without prompting and have been given a lot of support and help by officers to help us get funding - it's not all top down.
Jan, our group was started with a poster in a shop window, they all have their own identity and way of working.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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23 February 2011
13:3093891If anyone needs an example of big society in action and working well, look no further than LRCF. A group of committed local people doing things that local government does badly or doesn't do at all because it is unable, unwilling or too mired in political infighting to do.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
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23 February 2011
15:2793900Chris, I totally agree with points in your posting.
Ray points out the way it should be.
LRCF is the example.
Have been to the Castle Forum on a couple of occasions a few years back & they were very lively.
Watty
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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23 February 2011
21:1693936I thank you Paul. Now if only we could get Vic to read the posts he comments on he would see that I directly commented on the LRCF.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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23 February 2011
21:5393948with regard to original post its clear from johns posting that the alliance not so welcoming of labour party(well some alliance members)
on community groups, there are some even in priory
'the priory forum was a well functioning body for a while but seems to have gone quiet
the clarendon and westbury community assoc is doing a great job under shiela's leadership and im sure would welcome moe powers to run its own community.
there are others
so now up to others to make it happen
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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24 February 2011
08:0693974It's not true to say the PF is run by Councillors and Council officers Howard.
The meetings are open to everyone in the Community (it's a Community Forum), the only Council officer is the Community regeneration and she attends to give advice, not tell us what to do.
The Councillors who attend are there to help and give advice and follow up on problems highlighted that need resolving by DDC.
Every Community Group should be run by members of the community.
If people came along to them, they would see who turns up an who plays an active part and so wouldn't get a false impression from just one meeting.
It's always useful to invite various agencies - the PCSO, Police, maybe parking services/Kent Highways and if a particular item is on the agenda, then maybe a Cabinet members or senior officer of DDC.
It's not politicising a group to invite members/officers of the Town and/or District Council.
Keith, I understood that CAWCA was created to run the Hall for the local people, I didn't know it was a separate community group or association; why have two ? Why don't we work together ? Aren't our goals the same - working for the benefit of the community ?
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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24 February 2011
08:2093978roger
i agree with your comments ref the priory forum being a community group although question at the moment its move towards the folkestone road rather than wider priory issues.
with regard to the 2 groups in priory you will fnd the clarendon and westbury was formed to be a community group for priory and not just the hall, and it has since its formation involved itself in a number of wider issues outside of the running of the hall.
As to whether or not there should be 2 groups in priory thats for those two groups to decide and in your position as cllr maybe thats something for you to explore.
i do know both groups do valuable work in the priory part of the ward
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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24 February 2011
08:3493981We are not just for the Folkestone Road Keith. There was a Multi-Agency group set up to help the local community with a number of issues,and it had to start somewhere and some where that many people would notice the difference, so we started on the Folkestone Road, but it was never exclusively for one road.
After a while the efforts were being widened out, then, for personal reasons, our Chairman resigned and we are regrouping to help everyone who lives in the area - if they come to the meetings, they can see what's going on and what we're trying to do.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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24 February 2011
08:3993982ROGER
I think one of the problems of p/f is that of publicity
certainly i was unaware of any such meetings and i wonder how many of the electorate was aware.
I agree forum's start somewhere, but p/f did have a base ans some saw the move to folkestone road as a starting point being one of self interest for some members
but that said im sure as i said that both groups do valuable work, as do many groups across the District
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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24 February 2011
11:0393991i disagree roger, at the meeting i referred to there were 7 of us that were just local people with no official position.
nobody was satisfied with the meeting, we were told by one officer that they were there to listen, trouble is noone could get a word in edgeways.
officers go on courses to learn how to handle such meetings, they know how to give a bland response that kills any further debate.