Guest 1792- Registered: 2 Jul 2016
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Connaught barrack s should never have closed ,Soldiers and families bought a lot of money into Dover and it was that moronic Gordon Brown that was responsible for its demise along with the other Lab louts that backed it..Affordable flats and homes for who ? How many of them will be lived in by Dover ppl not many i bet ,not according to a post ourMP put up a while back that homes were being built for the majority of our unwanted visitors ,But thenall the time this Town remains a filthy slum with no decent shops or entertainment no one in their right minds will want to live here ,And the irony is that the ppl of Dover are going to get stung with a huge rise in CT ,DTC want a raise why no one knows maybe they want a higher expense account or the [removed] wants us to fork out for another law course We have no 24/7 Police station ,the roads are a disgrace ,Folkestone rd looks worse then a slum ,KCC will also,want their pay rises esp that moron Carter who thinks he's more important than the Queen ,And no doubt DDC will also get pay rises then come the end of this yr they ll be bleating that there's no money for social care ,,Meanwhile poor Joe Bloggs and his family will be getting bullied and threatened with court action because they can't afford this extortionate and unfair tax because unlike,Cllrs and staff their wage hasn't gone up and will probably have to go without meals to pay for it , Exaggerated no just the plain truth
Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
- Posts: 393
And a very happy new year to you too
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I don't remember Charlie saying anything about building houses for our "unwanted visitors" whoever they may be.
Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
- Posts: 393
People from Folkestone?
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,543
Not having been past recently, has any work ever taken place?
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,543
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Karlos- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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It doesn't mention any affordable homes or any provision for social housing, would be nice if first time buyers have the chance to get on the housing ladder but we shall have to wait and see.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,083
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, 'yet more breeding boxes for displaced Londoners'.
It doesn't have to be like this, a 2/3 scale model village, of some rural idyll of a past that never ever actual existed with the addition of 1.6 parking spaces for each dwelling.
Just look what CAN be done, homes and streets and communities which actually work:-
http://dev.createstreets.com/
Even the bloody council was able to design and build in days gone by
https://londonist.com/2015/02/worlds-oldest-council-estate-at-125-then-and-now
How much of the rubbish being nodded through by DDC Planning do you really think will still be standing a hundred years from now never mind about being much sought after?
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
No one in the know believes it will be anything close to 500 houses on that site probably closer to 350
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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300 homes planned.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Judith Roberts- Registered: 15 May 2012
- Posts: 637
I hope there will be some good quality family sized homes. A proportion of affordable of course but also homes to attract people with spending power to Dover. For the town and particularly the town centre to thrive we need the town population to stop falling and a younger more socially mixed demographic.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Judith Roberts wrote:a younger more socially mixed demographic.
I suspect we are almost guaranteed that.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Judith Roberts- Registered: 15 May 2012
- Posts: 637
Lol Bob. I don't understand why large houses to appeal to young and youngish professional families are never built in Dover rather than Whitfield. A house with views of the sea and castle would surely be in high demand. The views over the town and Charlton valley are also very attractive. I might be tempted myself.
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
- Posts: 451
I have a lovely view of the channel and can even see France most days.. and I do not live at Whitfield.. Howver I cannot see the castle..
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
Last I spoke to Homes England they had still not appointed a developer for the site.
This is our opportunity to clearly inform Homes England of what we want, according to their constitution they are supposed to work with communities to enable them to deliver the housing they want and need...
If we do not get involved now before plans are finalised there is every likelihood we will end up with another "Richmond Park" type fiasco with cheaply and poorly built units designed to maximise developer profit only and no affordable homes.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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From Pat Sherratt
What is the REAL value of a Public Engagement Exhibition other than for the Developer to “Tick Box” that community engagement has taken place.
In 2015 such an exhibition was held in respect to the “Officers” site at Connaught Barracks (DOV/15/00260)with artists impressions of wonderful high quality type properties very much akin to the Poundbury development in Dorset.
What is actually being delivered (DOV/18/00981) is far from the visuals proposed in 2015, of course the 2015 application was only “outline “.
Please see Dover Society comments on DOV/18/00981. and I have to say surprising the only public comment being from the Dover Society
I totally agree with comments in Post 52 but I doubt if there is any understanding of quality for this important site opposite Dover Castle and with panoramic views down the Channel. The correct development could vastly improve the image of property delivery in Dover and assist with attracting quality developers to other Dover sites.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
I agree with Pat.Too often the developers present glorious plans however quite often they not deliver what is expected.That site is one of the best in Dover and houses should be built to encourage professional people to locate there.I recall when the garrison was located here in Dover ..There were some lovely woman’s clothes shops ,because in years gone by people when going out for a meal wore evening clothes.I was fortunate enough to be invited out to dinners .Those days have now gone ,The link is with Officers wives,.
I was on the housing side of DDC and also planning and often I sat through presentations but plans got altered and the vision went .The flats which did come up to expectation are in Castle Street.
Where i live the development is good .Care was taken with the colour of bricks and it’s a good mixture of houses bungalows and flats .The nursing home is of an interesting design.Roof level s interesting.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
Alternatively, this is an opportunity to create a new mixed community providing a good range of units providing Dovorians what they want and need, there is a huge demand for affordable 2 & 3 bedroom family homes as well as units that will attract the better off. All of these could be accommodated on this site without it turning into some saccharin coated twee chocolate box vision of "olde England" or worse a pathetic pastiche of a variety of building styles as we have at Richmond Park etc.
This is an opportunity to be bold and imaginative, not only with the style of units but also with the level of community involvement and construction methods.
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,057
What is the definition of 'affordable 2 & 3 bedroom family homes', as properties above, say, £220k don't appear to be selling particularly quickly?
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