Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
I think posts 19 and 20 say alot
for the lib dem minister its easy to say
but for the elderly deciding to eat or heat is a serious one
and the number of deaths can be avoided
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
- Posts: 1,418
I was just being ironic when I mentioned that Chris Huhne advised people to turn down the thermostat of elderly neighbours. It has to be said that, realistically speaking, he might well do. It is his policies that help to cause such a situation where people will die because of the cold. I did point this out long before the headlines told us so but I guess people didn't believe me. Perhaps this where some of the problem lies. Unless it's announced in the press or on the television facts like this are largely ignored. When, finally, the global warming myth is exposed by most of the mainstream media outlets we will continue to face this problem. A problem which will impoverish our country and lead to energy blackouts and even higher bills.
But I guess people are happy following the BBC line that the Earth is warming and it's all down to Man.
Really it's a scandal and a national disgrace that politicians lie to us so blatantly and are helped in this fraud by what are laughingly described as journalists.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
- Posts: 2,868
Advice in the past has been - if you are unable to heat all of your house, just keep one room properly warm, in which if necessary, you can sleep as well. In the worst weather of course. And several layers of clothing are useful.
To me it would seem very wrong to advise people to turn down thermostats of elderly neighbours, and dangerous.
---------------------------------------------------
Lincolnshire Born and Bred
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
Reg, are you assuming I have not experienced hardship, which I have when I was younger with three young children.
BTW I have a friend who lives on just the state pension and also manages to keep warm and feed herself well. A lot of the time it depends how the money is spent or in some cases wasted.
I have always felt that the information on benefits are not easy to obtain and some of the forms are really daunting for those that hate filling in any kind of form.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
I have said this before,we find it is a great help by paying each week on the cards some times itis a £5 and somtimes £10 on each,this time of the year we put£10 on each of the Gas and.Electricty,with £5 going on each of Bt. Southern water but we top this one somtimes with £10.TV £5 per week. And the other water bill £13 per month.this way we do not miss the money and we get no bills. Why not try it.?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
- Posts: 8,115
Quite a good idea, Vic.
I pay £12 each week for water and electricity.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
vic and alex
we all do that now, the problem is that each year promises to leave us with a shortfall.
philip
i realised you were joking, just that forum members that have not followed barry's blog will not have picked up on your keen sense of humour yet.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
- Posts: 1,418
Thanks Howard.
Just to clarify, there has been no advice to turn down thermostats.
Best advice? Choose the cheapest supplier as soon as possible online.
Do check up on the elderly if the weather takes a downturn. This winter promises to as bad as the last few previous winters.
Another piece of advice is to do some research about how the UK stands on the brink of becoming a third rate country having been impoverished by laws such as the climate change act and subsequent action by this administration in it's aim to decarbonise the UK.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
I will be 70 next year and yes it is hard to pay the bills which go up and up by the week, if I was fit I would return to work, there is a place for me,but my legs will not let me at this time.But is not all bout us old ones, there are a lot of young famileys in the same boat ,and babys need to have nice warm rooms to and the right food to eat,but I am sorry to say that the English are not looked after by it own leaders It is time that the leaders put its own first. To look after number two you must first look after number 1.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
- Posts: 8,115
Vic, they collect our money and use it to look after N.2.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
- Posts: 4,010
# 22. Apologies.Gave up on BW`s blog a long time ago.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
- Posts: 1,418
Funny that. I'm watching coverage of a debate which took place in the commons October 20th with questions to the energy and climate change minister(s). It's fascinating stuff. I've seen wasted parliamentary time but this really takes the biscuit. Stupid politicians discussing a stupid issue involving stupid amounts of money in order to tackle a stupid non-existing problem.
What made it worse was the amount of plastictories asking "vital" questions about this nonsense. Jeez if there was ever a reason not to vote look no further than these chumps. Next time a noted teabag manufacturer want to use monkeys in order to advertise their wares they'd be better off hiring these idiots. Far more entertaining.
And the idiot huhne reckons that one million jobs will be created by 2015 by way of green jobs. Damned fool the man.
Weirdo more sensible heads might say.
Jan: I do not smoke or go out drinking. I rather resent the implication that I am doing this rather than heat my home. I do not go on holiday. I rarely go out at all. I try to eat healthily but I do have treats. I actually bake cakes and we eat them!! Shock horror. My point is that it is criminal that the energy companies are making so much profit and still charging us ALL a fortune. But yes, since only on pensions we do have a more limited income than some.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
Good post Mrs Woodridge,and there are many of us in the same boat,we have worked all our working lifes,looking forward to having a few years of good living, and that is not going to happen,at the age of 69 if I could get fit again I would be going back to work fulltime,and that is not fair.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
- Posts: 1,418
Vic, I suggest you get onto UKIP to bring more attention to their manifesto pledge to repeal the climate change act. Scrap that odious piece of legislation and you won't need to worry about going back to work again. But the problem for you is that you presumably support the act.
Oh the paradox of following a party and not agreeing with it's policies eh?
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
Diana, I am sorry if I upset you or anybody else that certainly was not my intention.
I have to find £130 for the direct debit a month to pay mine and I am not sure if that will cover this winter's bill if it is like last year.
My point was that the problem is applicable to ALL of those on low income whatever their age not just the elderly who regularly get paraded in front of the media, also that a few on low income do manage maybe because they in purpose built housing like my friend.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess what we mean is that it is unhelpful to lump people together based on irrelevant issues such as age, gender, race, disability. And so on. Those often meaningless distinctions hide rather than reveal the extent of poverty by throwing up those who can manage and diminishing those who cannot. A bit like people who tiresomely always quote the 110 year old who has always smoked and drunk in order to justify their own smoking and drinking!
And that is not a reference to anyone, to any smoking, to any drinking, or even a comment on anything pertinent..............
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
It's important that people look out for their elderly or disabled neighbours. That is the true big society in action.
Mind you, it doesn't always work. The old lady next door never once knocked to see if we were all right during the snow last year, and she didn't even bother to take in her milk or newspapers for a whole fortnight. Some people are so lazy.....
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
What about the smell, Peter?
I suppose she has got used to it by now.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,463
We are fast in danger of returning to the Dickensian England of the 1840's so aptly referred to in 'A Christmas Carol'
"Are there no prisons?" asked Scrooge.
"Plenty of prisons," said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.
"And the Union workhouses?" demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?"
"They are. Still," returned the gentleman, " I wish I could say they were not."
"The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?" said Scrooge.
"Both very busy, sir."
"Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course," said Scrooge. "I'm very glad to hear it."
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)