howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we would get done for fly tipping jan.
what with all the difficulties being eperienced in getting this organised it may be better to leave it until the rats appear.
something may be done officially then.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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You might in theory get done for fly tipping but I doubt that would happen.
If it went to court you would surely win as you would be able to prove you were only be moving what was already there but scattered around, therefore only making the area tidier.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i would rather not go to court in the first place jan.
as seen with that application form one has to be very careful about tidying things up.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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We want this clean-up to work and be as sustainable as can be - ie, we want the local community to help us with the clean-up and so accept the fact that they will help keep it clean in the future. That's the intention.
Roger
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Does anyone know why the bin on Barton Path has been removed? It's removal is virtually a license to throw rubbish in the Dour. There is now no rubbish bin between Morrisons and Cherry Tree Avenue.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Perhaps the bin was thrown in the river and floated downstream Phil ?
It was only a recent addition wasn't it ? so it wouldn't have been taken away by an officer of the council - an officer of the yob brigade perhaps.
Roger
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I'm certain it has been removed Roger. It's not just the plastic bin cover - it's the metal fixtures and fittings too. I'm certain it's not vandalism. I can take a photo if you like.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I'll ask waste services Phil and see what they say.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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good article in the "express" today, well done to roger for highlighting the problem.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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You should take the credit Howard, you spoke to Adam at the D/E and he called me for the info.
It does need sorting out though and hopefully it will be better if we can involve the local people.
Roger
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I saw the results of their efforts Ray, thank you for the link.
I can't imagine those living along the Clarendon Alleys becoming that involved, but we can dream I guess.
Clarendon Alleyway(s) is a tad more than 120 foot long and many of the residents live in private rented housing that the landords have no interest in, other than how much money it brings them each month, so why should they ?
A good number of them are also fairly short term and move on after a few months, so they will not have a sense of belonging to a community.
It is hoped that by helping with the clean-ups, they will not want it to return to its current state.
Roger
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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I do not think you can blame the landlords unless they are the ones doing the dumping.
It is the 'I do not care about the state of my home' tenants that are to blame. Have leaflets been left saying it is not the done thing to dump their rubbish over the fence and asking them to clear it.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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bad landlords have to take their share of responsibility, in some cases the houses are in an advanced state of disrepair and that hardly encourages the tenants to keep the gardens nice.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Surely Howard there lies the underlying problem in that most are absentee landlords who leave the care of their properties to letting agents whose main aim is to collect the rents on time and bugger all else bothers them.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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have to agree, their is no onus on the landlords to do anything about it.
if you manage to catch a landlord they will say that the letting agent is responsible for the state of the property, the letting agent will then say that they are charged with collecting rent and nothing else.