howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#1
you may have seen on another thread about a cleanup of alleyways in the priory area.
roger is experiencing bureaucratic intransigence in getting this underway.
i took a walk along the alleyway that seperates clarendon place and clarendon street to see how bad the problem is.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#2
howard,thats disgusting.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#3
some more for your delectation.
as we all know the people that dump the stuff will not be involved in the clean up.
the punch line (wait for it) is that once we have cleared the stuff we will then have to pay for it to be taken away.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
- Posts: 8,115
#4
Will these clean ups be voluntary, or will the workers get paid for it?
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#5
Some nice nesting material for rats there I should think, I hate rats.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#6
You're right there, Jan. In theory, the plague could jump out of that trash! It's a disgrace, and ought to be cleaned up.
It's definitely got the Desolation Spot air to it!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
#7
It's being organised and run by the Priory Forum - volunteers Alexander, so we won't be paid when we give up our time to do it.
The collection vehicle will have to be paid for and we are applying for funding to do it.
Rats are a problem and are known to be a problem, but there is a "difficulty" with rules and regulations that allow people to make the place look this way and get away with it.
People can put anything in their garden and it's O.K. for them to leave it there - there should be a by-law to say they can't.
We need a "CAN-DO" attitude, even with getting rid of some of the rubbish - and as you can see, it is all sorts of fly-tipping - and we are all told - "I didn't put it there, someone else did".
It's always someone else's rubbish isn't it ?
If you can rustle up some volunteers Howard, we can do both alleyways on the same day.
Roger
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#8
Gawd those pictures tell a tale. A truly awful situation as there is some heavy grade stuff there. Heavy lifting, so young volunteers with a truck needed.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#9
I would have thought this counted as fly tipping which as far as I know is illegal and the responsibility of the council to prosecute.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#10
i would have thought it the least the council could do is to pay for a vehicle to take it away.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#11
Agreed Howard.
You could always cheat and ask the volunteers to drag the rubbish to the pavement for collection on your dustbin day, I can just imagine the faces of the refuse men.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#12
JAN/OTHERS
When i helped to organise a clean up in the same area some years ago the council were kind enough to provide the lorry, gloves, rubbish sacks
of course there is a cost to this.
But also there is the question of o you keep going around clearing up others peoples mess.
im sure if you or i lived in this location you wouldn't leave it in such a state.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#13
I hate it when we put items on the drive ready to go to the tip the following day, I just wish my neighbour felt the same. His front garden and the bedsit house he owns up the road look like the pictures shown above at times, truly awful it makes me so mad
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#14
yes keith i remember it was a sita vehicle that down the collecting at the end of the clean up.
surely if the public(in this case priory forum) pay out for the equipment, then volunteers do the work, the least that d.d.c. could do is collect the stuff?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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#15
HOWARD;
It's all about talking to the right people.
anyway let's hope my words are heeded on clearing peoples mess.
ROGER;
I'm sure i have a number of orange sacks left over from last clear up, let me know if its to go ahead and if council happy to collect them and i will get them to you
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#16
I did help up there some years ago with the clean up as a town cllr,I think the D,D,C, should now take action against the owners or talk to them to try and stop it.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#17
yes maybe a few prosecutions highly publicise might do the trick
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#18
difficult to prove who dumps the rubbish, besides nothing is done about the buildings in town so there will be no interest in priory.
there is simply not the will to do anything.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
#19
Thanks Guys (and Girls).
The Council would pay for the rubbish collection, but as the clean-up is being done on a Saturday, they won't pay for it.
Sadly, times have changed from clean-ups of years ago; health and safety for one; red tape for another - or is that the same thing ?
I understand we are being supplied with the necessary implements - bags, gloves, litter-pickers etc. but to be honest - and you can see in the photos (thank you Howard), things like forks and spades may well be required.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#20
Still the council job to act on it,and also the owners job to clean it up even if he did not put it there.
