howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 January 2011
21:3788518#21
you're right about the social balance vic, we do need people with "a decent wedge" to move into the area and "flash the cash".
i will speak to our council leader and ask him to encourage his fellow lodge members to invest here.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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10 January 2011
21:3888520#22
You are right Vic but we need people with spending power to cone and live there, not a load of DFLs who spend their money elsewhere during the week and come to Dover once a month. Although that would be better than having DSS funded tenants.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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10 January 2011
21:3888521#23
My God we agree (swoon).
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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10 January 2011
22:0188526#24
If they are DHB properties it wouldn't be something new, a lot of their property on Waterloo Crescent is let out as private flats on the upper floors.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 January 2011
22:0288527#25
Peter you are not agreeing with me ,but on this one we all know it is true,but up till now, it has not been said because we know it will upset some.it is only the councils mainly the District can do anything about it,and sorry I do not see that happing with some of the cllrs we have there now,and also the very bad planning office,but after May we might just see some new faces and that might help.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 January 2011
22:1088531#26
i was told by someone that lived in waterloo crescent that he had purchased his flat, albeit on a 99 year lease.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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10 January 2011
22:1288532#27
It is my understanding that the properties in Cambridge Terrace belong to DHB .It will be their decision as to what they do with those properties ,nothing to do with DDC .If a change of use should be required then and only then will it be a Planning matter .
Im sure if they were to let them out the rents will be high .
You cannot blame DDC for everything .
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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10 January 2011
22:1388533#28
It is very unfair to blame the planners as they donot have the right to reply .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 January 2011
22:1988534#29
cuts both ways susan, it also means they cannot put their head in the noose.
a lot of people locally feel that they are unaccountable for their actions.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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10 January 2011
22:3488535#30
Howard, Sue, you are both right. The planners are council officers and are therefore not accountable to the electorate. However I often wonder if the planning officers are following their political masters' agenda or have their own.
There have been many instances locally where perverse planning decisions have surprised people.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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10 January 2011
23:0188537#31
Who ever owns them I hope the council will say no if DHB or anyone else puts in plans for the convertion into flats in the future. Dover has enough flats and bedsits.
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Brian Dixon
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11 January 2011
07:0988542#32
if these places are turned to flats/houses for the so called middle class with a sizeable wedge where on earth are they going spend it in dover.with no good shops in dover they will be going to places like canterbury/ashford and london wont they.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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11 January 2011
08:0488546#33
Chicken and egg Brian - getting more well heeled people living in town will create a market for more better shops to open and boost those we have.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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11 January 2011
08:3388549#34
Please read my posts on the front page about this. Thank you.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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11 January 2011
08:5288552#35
barryw,it may well be chicken and egg thing,but you do need somthing here to atract them here in the first place.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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11 January 2011
08:5988555#36
A nice home and easy access to the continent is a start, my next door neighbours moved here from Cornwall for that reason.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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11 January 2011
09:0088556#37
Im not much for shopping but I sigh myself at the state of the few shops in Dover. Thank Gawd for Marks and Spenser as the shop keeps the centre of town buzzing with a bit of life. But yes its true that if you had people living here with stacks of money you would get shops opening up to cater for their needs...delicatessans for example, loads of them in London where people are apt to give dinner parties and try various varieties to impress their well heeled friends.
Yes initially they would need to shop in Canterbury but that would slowly change.
There are some flats along the seafront that look quite impressive, on the western side of the Churchill Hotel and these seem to work...although Ive never been in one to give the lowdown.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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11 January 2011
15:2288573#38
Yes Howard, I am looking forward to seeing more gentlemen taking in the bracing sea air strolling along the promenade neatly waxed moustachioed, cane in hand with ladies in their finery twirling parasols
Ah! Halcyon days, brass band music trailing in the air whilst waiting for the next steamer to whisk us off to the continent to enjoy a hand or two at the tables in the casino at Le Touquet and the parisien ladies flashing the odd ankle
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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11 January 2011
15:5588577#39
Cambridge Terrace.
This was built in 1856, and though the old Duke of Cambridge did not live in Cambridge House at the corner of Liverpool Street, yet he was a very well known visitor to Dover and thought worthy of having his name handed down to posterity.
(from Joyce Banks' Streets of Dover-
doverhistory.co.uk/streets-of-dover.html )
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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11 January 2011
18:4388605#40
salad days barry, one can only hope that the hoi polloi will never sully the area that the old duke of cambridge used to visit.