howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 January 2011
16:2688435#1
seem to have been boarded up for over a year now, used to house a kent social services department and also the white cliffs countryside project, possibly others.
all looking rather shabby which is a pity for such lovely buildings to be neglected like that.
also on the route from the cruise terminal into town.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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10 January 2011
16:4088441#2
Just to the right of the picture there is the Carpathian Restaurant. Is that still going? It all seems rather quiet there lately whenever I go past.So the whole block looks rather sad. It is of course even worse on the other side of the carriageway. If I wasnt such a cheerful bugger I would have slit me wrists long ago, as no matter which route I take back from the shops I meet death decay and destruction.
But yes those buildings have been boarded up for quite a long time now and it used to be a hive of activity there. The only way to protect those buildings is to keep them alive with inhabitants. Clearly there is no demand for professional office space in Dover...either that or the rent/rates are too high.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 January 2011
16:4488443#3
Agreed Howard, I pointed this out on the forum last year when the it was first boarded up and said that I have a feeling that the property would be neglected and would eventually fall into the same state of disrepair as the building in King Street
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 January 2011
16:4888444#4
paul
i meant to add that the "carpathian" has not been open for ages now, i know it is on the market.
barry
the parts just around the corner that are being used have flaking paint on the window sills, with the port coming up for sale soon i would have thought a priority would be to keep the buildings looking good.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 January 2011
17:3088455#5
They could make nice town homes for the upper middle class public,and that what Dover needs the most.If we could see that then Dover would move on without that kind of imput it will not.
Jan Higgins
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10 January 2011
17:5088460#6
They would make nice homes for the rest of us plebs as well.
. I hate seeing lovely buildings like these slowly slip into decay.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 January 2011
18:2888466#7
vic is right in what he says, it will give us all a chance to tug our forelocks and doff our caps to them on the way to the sea front.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 January 2011
18:3188468#8
The Town needs cash they would have it. You have to think about that.
Alec Sheldon
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10 January 2011
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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10 January 2011
19:0188479#10
My point was that class should not come into who could afford to live there a lot of 'working class' are high earners these days.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 January 2011
19:0488480#11
i have to disagree mrs higgins, i would like to see the likes of posh barry with a walking cane and colette with a flowery parasol promenading along our esplanade, taking in the sea air, spreading their largesse to those less fortunate.
plenty of those in the subway.
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10 January 2011
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10 January 2011
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Vic still calls me Mrs Hollingsbee.
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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10 January 2011
19:5088495#14
Back to the point - do we know who the owners are?
Can the council not use its powers to serve maintenance orders?
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Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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10 January 2011
19:5288498#15
I agree it's a great shame to see such magnificent properties falling into decline. I wonder who owns them? Is it part of the Harbour Board's property portfolio? I would have thought that such properties were ripe for development as homes, although again it comes back to the issue of employment. Such properties would go for a song in London, Bath, etc. but I'm not sure Dover is being marketed in the right way.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 January 2011
19:5888500#16
it is the harbour board, considering they are trying to sell the port it must be contrary to their interests to let them run down.
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10 January 2011
20:0988503#17
After the Revolution, the Harbour Board property portfolio will be managed for the benefit of the Town and District.
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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10 January 2011
20:3288508#18
Any news on when that might be Peter
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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10 January 2011
21:1488514#19
We are still waiting for the Whitehall machine to digest and produce an output of some kind. No telling when that might be, although I believe the Localism Bill and its progress through the various stages of the parliamentary process may be of some relevance.
Frustrating, but better to do it slow and get it right than rush it and get it wrong.
I think the hierarchy at DHB have rushed it and in the process alienated almost all the stakeholders they need to have onside.
PG.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 January 2011
21:2488516#20
The last thing we need to see there is one or two bedroom flats,I am sorry to say but Dover is social unbalance and that needs to be put right,I am like the most working class,in Dover we need lots more middle class and upper class to bring back that even balance,you might not like what I am saying but it is true,you need a balance of class to make agood district or town to live in and shop,the middle class and above would do that ,if it happen you would see alot better shops for onething,but first comes good homes and areas for them to live in.
