Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I noticed a sign over here yesterday
Fine Tipping is Illegal
£500 Fine etc
For assistance in disposing of rubbish please contact the States Refuse Dept Tel 123456
A slihtly different approach givin the 'would be' tipper an out.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we have the signs up detailing penalties but they seem to be mainly for decorative purposes.
Peter
Black plastic sacks now removed. Still a little more cleaning possibly required.
Howard
Exactly. Hence why I favour working to-wards Zero Tollerance. Where other towns and Cities operate such a policy it is visually reflected.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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More furniture now dumped by entrance of multi storey car park opposite!
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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The point about zero tolerance is twofold. 1. If people have a reasonable expectation of being caught and fined they won't misbehave. 2. People are far more likely to litter an already dirty environment than a clean one.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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A point to be added to the old saw, "An Englishman's home is his castle." Is that, "An Englishman's midden is always somebody else's problem."
The clutter that none can abide within their own walls is all too easily seen as, "Not My Problem." when the problem is shared with the 'community'. And thus becomes another stick with which to beat the local authority.
It is as if the scope of human comprehension does not, for many, extend beyond their own threshold.
Something all too true in every walk of life in today's world.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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Absolutely Peter - it is "the broken window syndrome"
People do this sort of thing for many reasons, but to be be honest for most it is "because they can", they can "because they wont get caught" and even if they do "no-one will do anything".
Frankly we need a couple of very prominently publicised prosecutions for littering, dog-fouling and fly tipping in the town to show that it is taken seriously and will not be tolerated
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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For information purposes the States are publishing photo's of the offenders for the above breaches. As the island doesn't recognise and hasn't signed up to the Human Rights Act it has been welcomed by most islanders.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Hear Hear - let's make an example.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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I have always believed in name and shame so much better than a fine.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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in some cases yes but i suspect that some would see that as a badge of honour, a bit like an asbo.
i would go with the fines, deducted direct from wage or benefits.
One word: stocks!!
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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Yes, Bern, stocks !!
This happy chappie is now gone, so bring them to Tilmanstone
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Keith Sansum1
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which cllr would you put in stocks first
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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given it some thought keith, a parish councillor maybe?
possibly a parishes councillor.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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oh naughty howard
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