Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Jan do I detect the British Heart Foundation are not your favourite charity?
Audere est facere.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Exactly, it annoys me when people think they are giving to a good and worthy charity when they are really giving to a business that donates so little to the British Heart Foundation.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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I was glad to be informed of that. I had assumed, as you would, that it was a charity shop like any other. I have managed charity shops and they are hard work, usually staffed by kind hearted volunteers, and devoted to their charity.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Fully agree with you Jan, that is obviously why they charge so much compared to genuine charity shops.
Audere est facere.
Keith Sansum1
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I recall mentioning before charities such as
st johns ambulance and red cross
both of whom have private companies collecting for them
st johns ambulance collectors by the private company who rake off
in first year 25%
second year 10%
when you take in that they have collectors across the whole of Britain and we are talking millions of pounds that you think are going to st johns but actually are being creamed off by the private company
red cross also have a prvate company collecting for them the private company indicate they don';t cream off of red cross
but when you get into how it all works instead of directly taking the dough
they have an agreement that rather than advertise of tv which costs millions and has little effect, then instead have door salesmen/women by this private company who rake off what they would have paid for advertising which also worksout to be in the millions.
so when you give to thses charities(and maybe others) don't let them fob you off that 100% goes to the charity because there telling porkies
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It's the same with the Sally Army clothes and shoe collection points.
The clothes are collected by a business ,cleaned, sorted and sold to trade wth Sally getting 10% of the profits the rest going to the handling agency. The Asian agency has made just over £7million in the last 4 years.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
I did not know that, thank you. I prefer to donate straight to source, now. To be honest it is only when I am being lazy that I use those bins - I usually take stuff straight to the shop.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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it has opened by eyes
and makes m,e think twice about donating
and im sure if others were aware they to would think twice
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To be clear, these are different to the usual charity shops. Charity shops, if I am correct, are charity-focussed and plough the money back in. These enterprises seem to be differently managed.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the only one where the the bulk of the money goes to the deserving cause is the lifeboat one.
of course that excludes age uk where all staff give their services freely.
the answer is to support the ones where we know the money is not siphoned off to cover head office wages.
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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Chris is a volunteer at the Hospice Shop in London Road. Nobody gets paid any wages, even Sylvia the manageress who has been there for twenty years. A very good cause to support and there is parking right outside to drop things off.
I love rummaging in that shop - always something unexpected and/or interesting.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Ed, the Age Concern shop is the same as Howard said
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Our volunteer manageress has been boss for about twenty years and will be 80 in September with no intention of retiring. We do not have parking but very tolerant wardens who allow stuff to be dropped off and picked up.
Anyone looking for a very nice large proper wood wardrobe for £60?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i had forgotten all about the hospice shop they operate much the same as age concern in that they only sell donated goods as far as i know.
this would qualify them for the lower business rate that should not apply to the others who buy merchandise in.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Pleased to hear that the furniture has gone - Terry's bin is still waiting though.
Roger
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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The furniture has indeed gone. It has been replaced by a few bin bags artistically arranged so as to attract the maximum number of seagulls.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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You can't believe some people can you Peter ? What makes people be so damn awful ?
I don't know either.
Roger
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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roger,here are some reasons that might enlighten you,
being spoken down to.
lack of money,[whether working or not].
goverment cut backs.
lack of leadership from above [council/goverment.]
and thats just of the top of my head.chin,chin and get well soon.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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None of the above make people behave in such an anti-social way, I am surprised you would even think that.
They are those that are born lazy and with a 'I will do as I like attitude' regardless of their background and upbringing.
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Slight difference of opinion here! There are clearly some who are innate rogues but it is indeed upbringing and background that create the environment in which people are enabled to fail. We all need incentives, and there are some - too many - for whom there are too few. If we are serious about changing behaviours we should look at what actually works and not what we think should work. None of the above is intended as an excuse for poor behaviour - actually, quite the contrary!