Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Its members represent a tiny minority of those who depend upon the refinery for a living.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1
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shouldnt have made much difference then
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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But they have historic negotiating rights. Not for long, I suspect.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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thats the way forward
back to victorian days
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we can rejoice unite have backed down and the plant survives.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Indeed we can. Back to Victorian days, my Foot.....
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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if you got your way with your thoughts
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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all that really matters is that part of scotland will not become the wilderness forecast if closure had happened.
Jan Higgins
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I doubt Keith will ever say anything against unions. Unions can do a great deal for individual members but at times forget the bigger picture as the selfish (should that be stupid) leaders did at Grangemouth.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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believe me jan iv not always agreed with the unions iv been in
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Secretary of State Works and Pensions...........
Controversial disability benefit changes delayed
Postponement of personal independence payments is labelled the 'latest example of chaos' by Labour
Ministers have delayed controversial welfare reforms for disability benefits with immediate effect in what Labour has described as the "latest example of chaos" at the Department of Work and Pensions.
They had been planning to introduce the new personal independence payment (PIP) this month, transferring claimants from the disability living allowance (DLA) when their circumstances change.
However, it will now be introduced at the discretion of the department "in a more gradual, controlled and manageable way" starting in Wales, East Anglia and the Midlands.
The system began for new claimants in April as Iain Duncan Smith, the work and pensions secretary, pledged to end a "ridiculous" system that gives people lifetime awards.
However, it has been strongly criticised by charities and disability rights groups for denying benefits from some groups and causing anxiety for many disabled people facing reassessment of their claims.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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this is another incidence of no money actually being saved but the vulnerable ending up stressed out.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I D S seems to make a pig's ear of everything he is involved with...... possibly some good ideas but very badly thought out.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Just another example of foot-dragging by civil servants.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Just another ill-conceived policy.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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between them the civil servants and politicians have lot to answer for, they must have known a long time ago that they wouldn't get things sorted within the time scale. leaving the announcement until a few days before is inexcusable.
Brian Dixon
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here you are reg,the definition of buffoon.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/buffoonKeith Sansum1- Location: london
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seems IDS speaks strong words
then backs down
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I wonder which of the following is correct, either I D S is not in control of the civil servants or they are not in control of him or is nobody in complete control.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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It can be down to the political leanings of the civil servants themselves. If they don't agree with their polical masters, they can slow things down to the point of failure.
I certainly don't think that all the directives the Cabinet Members give their departments, filter down to the shop-floor.
Roger