Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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And by then it will be too late Brian.
Roger
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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roger,so you are listning to the scare storys as well then.the uk has allways had an open border.what would we do without the tourist industry.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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We're not talking about tourism Brian and you know it.
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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roger,its the same difference,people come people go.and since when has the rest of the world joined Europe.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Of course it isn't the same difference Brian; I can't believe you are saying it is.
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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because it is roger,they come and go like everything else in this world.and you cant allways blame the eu for it either.that is wearing rather thin now.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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This is silly in the extreme Brian; if you can''t see the difference between a tourist who comes here for a short time, to spend money and someone, low skilled (if any skills at all) and only comes here because they will be financially better off than in their native country - and seldom return, then there's no hope for you.
Here's a piece I received this morning - and it must be the same for all Councils, whether County, District or Reg's favourite:
"Commons hears migration evidence:
Philippa Roe, the leader of Westminster City Council, has told the Commons Public Administration Committee, that migration from Romania is already having quite an impact on her council. She warned the council will be in "serious difficulty" if it does not plan for the mass arrival of immigrants when rules are relaxed. Mrs Roe said most incomers would be "low-skilled" and the council must anticipate "the costs of looking after these people".
Daily Express, Page: 2
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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roger,do you allways believe what you read,and besides that's a tory council so less to believe in.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Well Brian, you have well and truly killed off any debate on this subject/thread.
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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roger,is was getting biased any way.there seems to be an anti eastern European attitude with some posters.wheather they come or not its up to them,with dover/callais as a bottle neck of non movement.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Brian, we know that the standing and current Labour party policy is fully aligned along your views as described above.
So we will have to see if the majority of people vote on May 2nd for Labour candidates and with them the mass immigration policy from Romania and Bulgaria.
Labour supports this policy, and has said they must come, as many as possible, and that "the Government" must supply all necessary requirements to accommodate them: housing, jobs, benefits...everything.
Labour has again tried to lie on the numbers, suggesting only a few hundred will come over, but then that is Labour.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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alex
the county council has no powers over the immigration issue despite what the blue propaganda leaflets imply.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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alex,as howard says its a government issue and not kcc's.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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But, Brian, KCC have made statements on how they are worried about the effects of the expected immigration on Kent.
Thus people believe that KCC does have powers to stop the immigration from Romania and Bulgaria.
Although, as you state, the powers actually lie with the central Government, most people here in Kent won't see it like this this.
They will believe that Labour and the Tories who are campaigning in Kent for the County elections are intent on upholding EU policies, in accordance with their respective party policies (Labour and Tory/LibDem)
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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alex,you are confusing adults with minors [under 18],kcc have a duty of care to any person under the age of 18,there is currently a case of an 18 year old from afganastan who came here as a child,and now being prosesed of being sent back.kcc are claimg a rebate in full from central government.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Yes, Brian, KCC have claimed back from London expenses due to people whose asylum-seeking requests have been fully exhausted and rejected, and yet await deportation.
KCC have pointed out that many of these are not deported.
The law says they should be deported to their country of origin.
KCC does not have the judicial power to render effective deportations of rejected asylum seekers.
The central Government is not doing its duty when failing to deport these people whose claims and appeals to asylum have been exhausted.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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alex,only if its safe to do so.