Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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What an interesting programe on BBC 4 last evening.Poverty today is not like the thirties and forties.The two officials from the Labour Exchange were as I recall them when I was a child .
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
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Attacks on disabled people still rife - one year on from Paralympics triumph
Success of GB athletes fails to alter attitudes, as poll shows widespread verbal and physical abuse
The vast majority of disabled people in Britain feel there has been no improvement in attitudes
towards them a year after the Paralympics and many feel stigmatised as "benefit scroungers"
while suffering hostility and abuse, a leading charity has warned.
Campaigners said the sea change in perceptions of people with disabilities generated by the London
2012 Games has been eroded by misleading rhetoric from politicians and within the media about
welfare payments and a crisis in living standards for the disabled caused by spending cuts.
Twelve months to the day after the opening ceremony for the Paralympics, the host city for the
Games - which thrust athletes such as Jonnie Peacock and Ellie Simmonds into the same spotlight
as Mo Farah and Jessica Ennis - has one of the highest rates of attacks on disabled people.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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copied and pasted from the link, the bit that surprised me the most.
For example, child benefit payments which EU residents are entitled to claim even if their children live abroad are not included. According to latest figures the taxpayer foots the bill for payments to 40,000 children overseas at a cost of £36 million a year. Tax credits and housing benefit are also excluded from the total.
Jan Higgins
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From Howard's link............."A DWP spokesman said: "It is important that we protect the integrity of the British benefits system and make sure it is not abused, which is why we tightening our rules to ensure genuine workers and jobseekers get support, but not people who come to this country to take advantage.
"We are also currently working with our counterparts across Europe to address the concerns we have about the abuse of free movement."............
Something that seems to be needed but will the EU rules allow us to target the immigrant benefit abusers differently to our home grown lot. Maybe we should pay them the same level as they would receive in their country of origin which I am assuming would be less than our benefit receivers get.
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Keith Sansum1
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Even better jan would be to get a new system where it unable to be abused by anyone(not even UK residents)
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Bob Whysman
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Even better jan would be to get a new system where it unable to be abused by anyone(not even UK residents)
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I agree wholeheartedly Keith S with your comments but I suspect it will never happen.
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Bob,
Unfortunatly all parties have attempted to sort out the benefits system, but all major parties have one eye on the ballot box.
Frank Fields a Labour MP and quitter right wing was asked by blair some years to look at ways of sorting it, he did, it was to radical and blair dropped it.
Since that time all parties have tinkered with it, including the latest fiasco by Ian Duncan Smith (tory) who im sure well meaning but also put forward a radical plan, which has got watered down and watered down.
When the claimant were saying they get £1,000 a month on dole9(for doing nothing)
and need £1,300 before they could consider leaving the dole!!!
The programme showed in the 1940's the benefits was not a right, but applied for and often not given
interestingly not to much unemployment either.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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The benefits system is political.
People have been paid to ignore the political policies of labour and conservative
The exportation of job to china, the importation of cheap workers from all over
Benefits , The tools, keeping the working class from ripping up the streets.
Benefits on borrowed money to prevent the working class from splitting into communism or Nationalism
See history Germany 1930.
To day we have 2 things coming into play
Benefits cuts and unaffordable energy food and council tax and housing .
The sleeping working class all over Europe will start to turn to the extremes.
When you vilify and label chave the working class, and 50% of them stop voting, you should start to worry .
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Keith B
Correct some cuts are coming ,,,,,,,,,,
the benefits system isn't good and needs reform most forumites have accepted that
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Brian Dixon
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nice rant kiethb,but try getting your facts right first.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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???? brian ???
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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kieth wots up.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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the sky
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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a thread killer if ever there was one.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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true howard,but the 2 kieths wont debate the truth.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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You will find I have debated this post 7, 9.
please brian you often close down debate with your one liners as you have howard
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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moi one liners never kieth,a compounded post is better than a war and pease one,and besides its straight to the point.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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if only that were correct brian
in realty its not
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