Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
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Mrs Elphicke is the elected representative of the people of Dover. She should ensure that she fulfils the obligation that comes with election and that should involve providing these residents with all possible support. They deserve the best possible outcome available. Mrs Elphicke needs to undertake a site visit to understand their anxieties.
Surely not all DDC councillors support this proposal? It would be good to see others come forward to support Guston. A huge thank you to Cllr Martin Bates and KCC Cllr Geoff Lymer who are prepared to give their time to fight for Guston.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It seems to me she does not what to stand again and going her own way
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Arthur wrote:Mrs Elphicke is the elected representative of the people of Dover. She should ensure that she fulfils the obligation that comes with election and that should involve providing these residents with all possible support. They deserve the best possible outcome available. Mrs Elphicke needs to undertake a site visit to understand their anxieties.
Surely not all DDC councillors support this proposal? It would be good to see others come forward to support Guston. A huge thank you to Cllr Martin Bates and KCC Cllr Geoff Lymer who are prepared to give their time to fight for Guston.
It seems to me that she is nothing more than a party loyalist through and through. Dangerous in times like these.
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Button- Location: Dover
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Well, WYSIWYG - she ran and was elected on a ticket of Get Brexit Done.
Although she did also say "I will also dedicate myself and my service as your Member of Parliament to upholding the values of our White Cliffs. The values of decency, compassion, justice, kindness, hard work and fairness – of community and country, faith and friendship. These things matter. They make us the community that we are- and the country that we should be."
(Slater, is that you making those groaning noises?)
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DFL- Registered: 21 Jul 2020
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Jan Higgins wrote:To be honest now the St Margarets house is on the market I don't think Natalie really cares what happens in this area, I just hope she will not stand as a candidate at the next General Election.
Why people voted her in, why - honestly, was she the best candidate around? The wife of a disgraced MP?
And people voted her in too... forget party politics, but blame yourself if you voted for her. What did you expect?
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
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I definitely didn’t vote for Mrs Elphicke, I did in fact challenge her selection as the Conservative candidate. However, as stated previously, she is paid to work for all her constituents and should at least have the courtesy to meet with those who are asking for her help.
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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DFL wrote:Why people voted her in, why - honestly, was she the best candidate around? The wife of a disgraced MP?
And people voted her in too... forget party politics, but blame yourself if you voted for her. What did you expect?
As you say she was the best candidate, though the candidate is totally irrelevant in a General election.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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True Sir
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Reginald Barrington wrote:As you say she was the best candidate, though the candidate is totally irrelevant in a General election.
I think DFL is actually implying that she
wasn't the best candidate around. Did anyone else wonder why Keith Morris resigned so abruptly shortly beforehand?
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Button wrote:(Slater, is that you making those groaning noises?)
Ah, such sweet memories, B. But she should beware that chalk's very slippery this time of year with a thin layer of mud on it.
With the 'lockdown' vote coming up it's time for another dissenting letter to Mrs Elphicke. It might be an idea for folks to fire off a few Guston-related lines, too, if only to remind her that, though she's she's been busy voting people out of work since March, she still has a job. She
will answer eventually, when The Party's written her reply.
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Well, Guston was alluded to and Aycliffe referred to by Mrs Elphicke in the HoC this week:
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2020-11-23/debates/DFAD39F2-73A9-4635-AAF2-082659891C4F/details. Here are three extracts...
"I strongly welcome the jobs and investment that a new border control point in Dover can bring in July next year. Will the Minister continue working with me and local residents to ensure that it is designed sensitively in order to take into account environmental and further traffic considerations—matters on which I know the Minister is already engaging with the community and council?"
"Residents of Aycliffe, which is situated next to the final part of the A20 coming into Dover town, have long argued that the Operation TAP point should be further back along the M20. Air traffic quality monitoring is in place and has been for some time, but I ask the Minister whether consideration could be given to a review of the location and effectiveness of the air quality monitoring in the next period, alongside these instruments. Will she also ensure that the traffic management regulations that are under consideration today are matched with appropriate litter and sanitation facilities along both arterial routes?"
"Will the Minister consider whether additional traffic control officers can be deployed at our local traffic hotspots, such as the Duke of York and Whitfield roundabouts, together with real-time traffic cameras and faster dispensing of Happy Meals to optimise the traffic flow for weeks and months ahead?"
OK, so she didn't actually mention MacDonalds, but you can't have everything.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Re above post .I have written to the Leader of DDC also the County Councillor and DDC Councillor .In my letter of opposition re using land at Guston for the Freight Forward facility ; I have suggested moving McDonald’s to the Business Park or back to its former home in Dover.Moving McDonald’s will ease the congestion at the Whitfield roundabout.
Button- Location: Dover
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Best of luck with that, then! You may wish to consider shooting whoever it was who granted the original McD planning permission without any regard for queuing theory.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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I cannot recall when it moved to Whitfield .I did not vote for it.Blinkered decision I think .Living in River I would have not voted for it . The relocation deprived Dover .Stupid decision.Every-thing pushed up to Whitfield and not enough done for the infrastructure.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The McDonalds at Whitfield is needed there it is well used by the public going to and from the port as well as the public using the shops etc in the park and public that live up there the one in the town would have done better if cars could have parked outside. But there was not the room might have done better down inSt James street or round there just outside.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Surely people could have parked in Ladywell,or Pencester Car park and walked with their
Macdonalds.Try travelling on the A2 with all the traffic at that Roundabout .Some people have . to travel along that A2 everyday for work .
Too much congestion on that roundabout .Problem is these days people are spoon fed no pun intended.
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Button- Location: Dover
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The drive-thru is certainly very popular and, to be fair, they do deploy a traffic marshall at times and form the on-site queue into two-abreast. That doesn't, however, stop patrons queuing on the highway (including the roundabout approaches) to enter the site, particularly during the school pick-up run. Getting out again causes similar problems.
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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McDonalds never moved, the Whitfield branch was open for years in conjunction with the town branch.
Don't know if its true or not true, but the dover franchise owner wanted to give it up but could not find anyone to buy it so closed, I also heard that McDonalds pulled the branch from them , for running it badly! So takes your pick.
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Karlos- Location: Dover
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At the moment McDonalds is too popular, with queues out on the Sandwich Road and onto roundabout.
What's needed is a flyover to cut out the roundabout, probably at the expense of McDonalds, but that could be moved elsewhere on the A2 I'm sure.
Button- Location: Dover
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Karlos wrote:What's needed is a flyover to cut out the roundabout, probably at the expense of McDonalds, but that could be moved elsewhere on the A2 I'm sure.
That, or an underpass, would help the queues and especially those that are a simple result of HGVs having to stop and start. The question is whether you then provide sliproads to allow traffic to continue to join/leave the A2 there, or whether that function moves to the A256 roundabout and Lydden Hill.
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