Guest 1172- Registered: 28 Jan 2014
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Guest 1172- Registered: 28 Jan 2014
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I asked whether you thought this type of sign langauge was acceptable for an Election Candidate.!
Guest 1172- Registered: 28 Jan 2014
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I give the bird all the time ,its part of our culture ,and the 2 fingers
Chrissie if you truly whish to oppose ukip your party needs to start Listening to the British public
Do you think the uk can go on with out a say on EU membership despite drastically changing from the original vote for so long ,,with out opposition?
I presume your on the left of politics ?
My question to you is haw is it that the left have been converted from apposing EU membership to supporting uk membership?
The EU has been responsible for mass unemployment and misery
And its given the multinationals a grip on all eu citizens ,and dismantled democracy.
The social chapter was a con to stop left wing opposition.
Jan Higgins
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That is certainly not a gesture I would expect from any aspiring politician regardless of their party. I agree with Howard wait until this appears in the press as it undoubtedly will eventually.
I will ask David what he thinks of this rude gesture to a member of the public in the middle of a busy street.
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Guest 1172- Registered: 28 Jan 2014
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I think it says a lot about a politician who thinks this is the way to behave in public. As for 'MY' party, I don't have one unfortunately.
In an ideal world I suppose I would be
on the left as I believe that policies leaving children or the elderly in poverty are wrong. I believe that we should all have access adequate healthcare and education opportunities... it could be a reality... but then you have those money grabbers with the 'it's mine, all mine' attitude!
But then I think about the lefties in Deal, and how they abused a frail widow, (there was one blue but he resigned pretty quick) That isn't what lefties should be about.
I personally don't think the EU benefits me and mine but I also don't know how UKIP think they will get us out. They haven't worked that one out yet!
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Guest 1172- Registered: 28 Jan 2014
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Jan Higgins wrote:That is certainly not a gesture I would expect from any aspiring politician regardless of their party. I agree with Howard wait until this appears in the press as it undoubtedly will eventually.
I will ask David what he thinks of this rude gesture to a member of the public in the middle of a busy street.
I have asked him but didn't get a reply. This pictures had nearly 1,500 shares in 2 hours so I imagine it will go viral!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the forum is not a chatroom, people log in and out and post at different times.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Hmmmn, the protester has to ask themselves exactly who are the real racists - labour or UKIP.
Watch this piece to see labour's "respectable" stance on the issue:
http://www.channel4.com/news/why-are-you-unpopoular-ed-milibandGuest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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If ukip went away there would be no conversation on EU membership.
Something I am very uneasy with in ukip ,is the removal of mr bloom
One of the biggest campaigners in the EU parliament against the banks
His work exposing banks ,and bad banking practise is probably why he got targeted so much by the press
But the left see him as the bad man,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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he was a prat though keith, every politico knows that every sentence they utter has a comeback nowadays.
Guest 1172- Registered: 28 Jan 2014
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote: that appalling photograph which will go "viral".
I have never ever seen a supposed politician behaving in that manner on a high street.
I think you were right Howard, this picture was shared 500 times in 20 minutes on FB, its going mad on twitter to I hear...
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I prefer my politician to be more reflective of society ,rather than staged managed yes men
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Shave those Sideburns!"
The player returns time and again with more of the hair on his head (and his sideburns) removed; but Burns keeps saying "For the last time get rid of those sideburns". The player says "Mr Burns, I don't know what you think sideburns are..."
He finally returns having shaved off most of the hair on the sides of his head, but Burns says "I thought I told you trim those sideburns. You are off the team for good!"
Obviously this is comedy, but there is a serious point. By refusing to define his terms - i.e. what he thought sideburns were, he put the player in an impossible situation.
Why do I mention this? Well in a hostile interview yesterday LBC's James O'Brien accused UKIP of Racism. Mr Farage countered by asking, "What is racism? Is it about colour or nationality?"
By refusing to define what exactly they mean by terms like racism and xenophobia, the media and their friends in the Political Left have a perfect weapon to use against their opponents.
If Mr O'Brien brought a British black man from 20 years ago and told him about UKIP and said it was a racist party, the man would ask, "So they are full of skinheads? Do they propose violence against non-whites? Are they advocating mass deportations? Do they forbid black people from joining their party?"
Mr O'Brien would have to reluctantly admit - "No, none of that is accurate."
The man would probably go away thinking James O'Brien was being very silly indeed.
Likewise, if Mr O'Brien brought a gay man from 20 years ago and told him about UKIP and said it was a homophobic party, the man would ask "Do they whip up anti-gay sentiment? Do they hand out leaflets on the supposed evils of homosexuality? Do they exclude gay members?"
Mr O'Brien would have to reluctantly admit - "No, none of that is accurate. Actually they have some senior figures who are openly gay and bisexual, they have a LGBT group and they supported civil partnerships"
man would probably go away thinking James O'Brien was being very silly indeed.
Likewise, if Mr O'Brien brought a gay man from 20 years ago and told him about UKIP and said it was a homophobic party, the man would ask "Do they whip up anti-gay sentiment? Do they hand out leaflets on the supposed evils of homosexuality? Do they exclude gay members?"
Mr O'Brien would have to reluctantly admit - "No, none of that is accurate. Actually they have some senior figures who are openly gay and bisexual, they have a LGBT group and they supported civil partnerships"
The man would probably go away thinking James O'Brien was being very silly indeed.
People like Mr O'Brien are constantly trying to widen the definitions of terms like xenophobia, racism and homophobia for their own ends.
They are trying to label everyone who has legitimate concerns about immigration as a racist, and everyone who thinks change in this country should be slowed to a steady sensible pace is a backwards-looking bigot.
What we need to do is turn this around on these people.
Ask them to define fully and in their own words exactly what they mean by these terms. They will quickly find that the British public would find their definitions idiotic and not in line with the beliefs of normal people.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith
you need to give credit where you lifted that from.
Guest 1172- Registered: 28 Jan 2014
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Its from an episode of the Simsons...
Guest 1172- Registered: 28 Jan 2014
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Chrissie I have no doubt that you hart is wanting to have a better society but you need to see why ukip is doing so good
The old party's are not complying the whish's of the public
Guest 1172- Registered: 28 Jan 2014
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I am not sure that UKIP will either
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I keep out of al this now but will just say that poor old UKIP is now getting filled up with members that could not get anywhere in other partys because they were to far to the left or to far to the right.
So they have jumped on the UKIP bandwagon because they look at them as a easy way to get(1)their own way of thinking or(2) An easy way to get a seat in power.
And this is now showing and by the time of the Gen/Election it will show a downturn in the party support .
And for a party that I supported for some years it is sad to see.
