Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Showing their true colours now....................
Courtesy I ndependent...........
Ukip MEP Godfrey Bloom shrugs off condemnation after demanding that Britain stops sending
money to 'Bongo Bongo Land'
But Godfrey Bloom shrugs off criticism saying his remarks would 'probably double my vote in the north.
A Ukip MEP caught on camera demanding Britain stop sending money to "Bongo Bongo Land"
has shrugged off condemnation and said it would "probably double my vote in the north of England".
Godfrey Bloom's comments about Britain's foreign aid contributions, much of which he said were
spent by the recipients on flash cars and sunglasses, are now under scrutiny by the Ukip leadership
and provoked outrage among political opponents
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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he is right on where the aid goes, certainly not to the needy - then again we always knew that the idea of aid is just a way of sweetening presidents up so that they let our major companies get a foothold in their markets.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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A straight question which I invite all to answer with a yes or no.
Should overseas aid continue in its present form?
You can be the first to reply Reg
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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maybe.
Brian Dixon
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no not ever.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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too many words brian.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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voted 3 times in 1 post howard.its called pst. post saving time.
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Ukip's Godfrey Bloom will not apologise over 'bongo bongo land' comments
MEP says he will not upset Nigel Farage by repeating remarks but will not say sorry because it
would be disingenuous
The Ukip MEP Godfrey Bloom, who said he was pleased to have started a debate about aid to
foreign countries. Photograph: Matt Cetti-Roberts/LNP/Rex Features
The senior Ukip politician rebuked by his party for referring to "bongo bongo land" has refused
to apologise because it would be "disingenuous".
After Ukip ordered him to stop using the term, Godfrey Bloom, a member of the European
parliament, said he would not "upset" his boss again by repeating his comments.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Jeffry on the BBC4 this morning
Apparently Jeffry has offered an apology to the 'Bongo Bongo Land' embassy
Reg Do they play the bongos in bongo land ??
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Independent...............it`s bigger than a fringe......
'Bongo bongo land'? Ukip's lunatic fringe has done David Cameron a favour
Defiant as the MEP may be, Godfrey Bloom's comments won't help his party
Speculate about the outcome of the next general election and a single sentence is unavoidable:
"It depends what happens to Ukip." Ukip is the great, big wild card in British politics.
Recent stunning electoral success means the party's fate over the next couple of years is of
considerable significance. When a senior Ukip figure starts talking about "bongo bongo land"
there are implications for the British political landscape too.
Ukip's implosion would help David Cameron more in 2015 than a thousand Lynton Crosbys
and the recruitment of President Obama's entire election-winning team. In contrast, a strong
Ukip showing at the next election, depriving the Tories of votes in key target seats, could propel
Ed Miliband in to No 10 even if Labour fails to get its act together between now and then.
Of course, it might be that the "bongo land" utterance by the Ukip MEP Godfrey Bloom only adds
to the party's appeal and encourages more Conservative MPs to look longingly towards a party
that some already contemplate joining. For sure a lot of them agree with the substance of
Bloom's argument, that overseas aid is a waste of money. Perhaps some Tory voters might
enjoy Bloom's tone, too, and the unrepentant interview he gave during yesterday's Today interview.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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The only people offended is the political opposition like you reg
£1 billion a month from uk taxpayers to bongo bongo land complete madness
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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can they play a 5 string bango kieth.?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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The 'bongo-bongo' stuff is more telling than offensive. It shows a complete lack of focus, and an inability to see the world as it is. He does not seem to know his 'thingy' from his 'whats-it'.
The latest I heard of our Overseas Development work was that the Government Department responsible was sort of privatised, given - more or less - to the major actors within it, greatly enriching the individuals concerned. Their focus has shifted onto making some sort of profit, from the building of shopping malls. Making lots of noise about attracting major brands.
Not that their drive to outdo China came to anything.
To say that aid money is being misspent is to misunderstand the real reason behind it. While we may be told that such money goes to help the poor in far-off lands is just so much soft-soap. Government aid money has long been simply a bung, a sweetener, for the powers that be. To encourage them to say nothing about Global Market rapine of local resources.
i.e. the spending of what little tax is paid by such companies on oiling the wheels of their taxless trade.
It is easy to see how attractive it all is to simply roll the eyes back into the head and speak of white forest dwelling antelopes, but then again, I am only one of the 'great unwashed'.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
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P.S.
Of course it is an ill-wind indeed that does not blow somebody some good...
"On the morning I read the words of Godfrey Bloom (Ukip MEP's regret over 'bongo bongo land' remarks, 8 August), I had also been reading extracts of two doctoral theses reporting important results in agricultural research. One was written by a Zimbabwean the other by a Rwandan, both no doubt from bongo bongo land in the opinion of Bloom. More important than the scientific results, in my opinion, is what these publications mean in terms of the journeys these two young men and their families have made. The work in these cases was not funded by the UK, but it could well have been, for this is an ongoing part of the reality of what international development funds are used for. Another feature of this type of endeavour worth recording is its Euro co-operative nature (no doubt also unwelcome to the little Englanders of Ukip) - the work was supervised in the field in Africa by scientists from the UK, Belgium, the Netherlands and France as well as the two African countries.
Dr Mike Swift
Montpellier, France"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/08/van-campaign-turning-back-clockIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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dr swift tries to come across as a sophisticated man of the world then gives himself away with reference to "the little englanders of ukip".
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Yes, some international aid ends up in corrupt pockets and a fair amount ends up in countries that are wasting their own money on irrelevances whilst their population grinds in real - starvation level - poverty.
Refocus on the where it goes and who it goes to - we made a promise (a rather public one) with regard to International Aid and we should keep our promise because that is the right thing to do.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 396...agree...
Politics Weekly podcast: should Ukip be taken seriously?................nah,
Ukip MEP Godfrey Bloom criticised the government this week for sending aid to 'Bongo Bongo
Land' in a speech leaked to the Guardian. So is the party really ready to take on the responsibilities
of representative politics? ...........nah......
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Neal
The only aid we should be giving is contraception, water treatment and medicines
All direct with no money.
The British people never gave permission for £1 billion a month, in borrowed money to be given away
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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The promise of 0.7% of GNI (around 942 million a month) was made decades ago and successive UK governments have renewed the promise without delivering. In 2002 the last administration laid out a path to full delivery of the promise with a renewed focus underpinned in legislation to spend the money only on projects that would directly alleviate poverty and starvation in developing nations. How well the legislation has been implemented in the field is debatable, but the UK has just become the only nation that made the promise to actually deliver on it.
By electing administration after administration in the UK over at least 3 decades that supported the promise that was given, it could be argued that we, the British People at large, are full party to the promise that was made on our behalf all those years ago.
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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If only there was a method of establishing without doubt that the aid went directly to the needy.
Never give up...