Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 2,911
Bullet points from today's i:
* Senior Tories accuse Sunak of being 'weak' if he fails to sack the Home Secretary, after she ignores No 10 on column criticising police
* Two Ministers tell i Braverman should be dismissed: 'she has to go'
* Grassroots Tories now see her as a 'serious contender' for party leadership.
If true (and personally I'd wager a small sum of money that it is), it doesn't say a lot for yer average grassroot Tory. Or for who appointed her, come to think of it.
Ross Miller likes this
(Not my real name.)
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,242
This is about the fifth attempt she's had at getting sacked - so I think the PM should just play along and do it this time. Yes, the right of the party would kick off, but they're coming for him anyway. If not for this, for that. May as well at least try and look strong by taking the initiative himself.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,584
She thinks by meeting police yesterday she has calmed the waters .
So I think it's just her making that leadership challenge
Ready to put up once Sunak losing election
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,859
The quality of the whole 650 in the Commons is embarrassingly poor indeed. But even acknowledging that low starting base, Conservative movers and shakers have lost all judgement if they believe someone like Braverman (who at least tries to think, bless her) must go, while the beyond dim e-scooter pin-up boy Grant Shapps gets to be Foreign Secretary.
For my piece, I think politicians should be banned from any association with Remembrance Day whatsoever. The hypocrisy of warmongers laying wreaths turns my stomach.
John Buckley likes this
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,859
*Defence Secretary.
Not that it changes the substance: Cleverley's not that clever either.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,584
I think it's the same with local politicians you will find a few trying to do a good job, but outnumbered
victor matcham likes this
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,242
Reshuffle incoming?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,584
Looks like she will go,
But listening to PM he appears to be still backing her .
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,859
Juicy.
The Conservatives happily supervised the politisation of the Met (appointing Dick, kneeling to blm, dancing at lgbtq+ rallies, dressing up for Eid, Diwali, etc.) and CJS generally (accelerating 'hate' crimes, policing mean tweets), freely salami-slicing English liberties in the process.
It's only now that this progressivism has become inconvenient for their atlanticist, neocon foreign policy objectives that they're having a meltdown.
The foreign adventurism, and its fallout (displacement, immigration), will carry on regardless.
I have my beer and pickled eggs ready for eager viewing.
Captain Haddock likes this
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 2,911
When I was small, the words I most dreaded from my parents were "we're very disappointed in you". Nowadays it would probably be "we have every confidence in you".
PS: I don't understand "atlanticist, neocon foreign policy objectives".
(Not my real name.)
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,521
The three worst words in the English language are 'Rail Replacement Bus'.
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,242
A rare moment of agreement, Captain.
So, goodbye Suella. Lots of noise but it's rather more simplistic than is being made out. She's either got the numbers to challenge Sunak, or she hasn't. The rest is detail.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,859
Button wrote:PS: I don't understand "atlanticist, neocon foreign policy objectives".
Well, in the first case, the post-WW2 aims of NATO in relation, first, to the Soviet Union and, after 1991 (despite the disintegration of the Warsaw Pact), to Russia. And in the second case (not entirely distinct from the first) the interventionist foreign policies that saw the UK, e.g., overthrow the Iranian government in 1953 and (particularly pertinent now with the re-emergence of Cameron) the bombing of Libya in 2011.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 2,911
So atlanticist means to do with NATO and neocon means to intervene abroad? Honest search for confirmation as I really don't understand this stuff!
Weird Granny Slater likes this
(Not my real name.)
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,859
Pretty much.
Be careful, though; you may be accused of eating 'Russian propaganda' or drinking at the Kremlin bar if you use them.
Button likes this
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 2,911
Especially as I have an O-level in Russian; this allows me to say in Russian subversive but useful stuff such as 'this is Tanya', 'this is a radio', 'this is Tanya's radio'...
Weird Granny Slater likes this
(Not my real name.)
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,242
Wasn't Tanya the Russian bot that popped up here a while ago?
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 2,911
Nyet, that was Veronika!
Neil Moors likes this
(Not my real name.)
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,521
Hey ChatGPT write a letter to the 1923 committee chairman in the style of a drunk five-year old ...
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,242
Biggest surprise is that Andrea Jenkyns hadn't already submitted a letter. You know what, I was quite impressed until the silly appointment of Esther McVey.