howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jack Heart wrote:I wonder if this potential Labour candidate for MP realises he also needs votes in Deal & Walmer.
Where? Are these places local?
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Was Mr Wallis a Refugee welcome marcher ??
chickens and roost .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Bibby wrote:Was Mr Wallis a Refugee welcome marcher ??
chickens and roost .
No Keith I can confirm that Peter was marching barefoot down from Jarrow that weekend, covered in coal dust with a whippet on a lead in his left hand and a chunk of Hovis in the right.
You tell that to the youngsters of today and they don't believe you.
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Well Having come into this late I have to say whilst this was probably done with all good intention,
To bring such an item in the political arena could have the opposite affect to that was intended.
I think many would be upset that Labour has decided to make it a political football.
Throughout the fundraising people have come together from all different backgrounds to raise funds for Kelly(and long may it continue) but once you put a party giving the impression its the fundraiser it will not only upset other parties, but could also turn off non voters who don't want to be associated with any political party.
I think its an error of judgement
As for being the MP that's another matter I hope he holds his council seat, but hope that there is no connection between the 2 as it would be quite wrong to use Kelly to further your own ambitions
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Pictured here is the Labour focus group working on Labour's economic policy.
The general consensus was that there should be more sweeties for everyone. Some of the group were worried that some children thought that those who had been naughty or lazy did not deserve sweeties but the nice man told them that we had the fifth largest number of sweeties in the world and even the naughtiest and laziest child should have a working or living amount of sweeties.
The meeting unfortunately broke up in chaos when a load of other children that nobody knew started banging on the window demanding to be let in so that they could have a share of sweeties.
The silly man let them in in spite of the fact that there was not enough space for them and all the kiddies forgot about the sweeties and started fighting.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Then in a school just down the road, built against the majority public opinion we had the teacher explaining how the system within his grammar school worked and the outlook they should all have.
It was his view that 90% of monies should go to the rich and the 10% we should make others fight over.
We should make sure that the rich get richer, and he advised the children when they get older if they are questioned on this they can use the excuse that if we don't give them hundreds of thousands they will go overseas.
Other children(and families) were outside the school window to weak to knock on the window.
Do you really want to vote Conservative?
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I like sweeties. Today I shall make myself really useful and earn some.
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Re posts 127 128 this is a fine excample of what turns me of politics .128. Just because some parents work hard and ensure their children aspire to do their best should not give you the right to envy them.I find it ironic that they are expected to pay heavy taxes to keep those who could not care a xxx for their families.I have no doubt their are many children in our deprived area who deserve a chance but their parents need to encourage and support them.Its love and support they need .I have always supported those in need but you have to be very careful not to be taken for granted and envied.
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I wish I could understand where this feeling that grammar schools are for a privileged few originated.
My father was a salesman but I went to a grammar school while out of my fellow school friends only one came from a fairly comfortable background compared to the rest of us. My husband worked on the ferries as a steward, like many we struggled with money and lived in a council house when two of my children went to our local grammar schools.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Perhaps Keith (and others) might like to listen to the excellent Toby Young on the subject of 'meritocracy'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08lgq9n
Like it or not, intelligence (i.e. IQ) is both largely inherited and also closely correlated with income. It would indeed be rather counter-intuitive if it were otherwise.
Putting it bluntly we are not all 'born equal' and even if poor children were adopted at birth and brought up in a stimulating environment the chances of them getting into Oxbridge is close to zero as they are mostly pre-programmed to be thicker than average.
It is absolutely disgusting that the Labour party is against one of the main reasons for social mobility in the sixties and the seventies. A cursory glance at place of secondary education of Prime Ministers and Ministers of this period will show just how important Grammar Schools were.
It's about time we started looking at schools being places of education rather than a laboratory for some utopian social engineering experiment.
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All grammar schools are over subscribed, most parents want their children to go there, never has the politics of envy been better demonstrated than by those opposed to grammar schools.
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Incidentally, the three most successful business people in Dover I can think of didn't go to grammar schools.
Neither have they spent their lives moaning how unfair it all is.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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To get back to the topic heading,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Thankfully we are not like in France where , whoever wins there wil be immediate demonstrations.
That said, choice is limited in the UK
A left leaning corbyn where already plans are being put into place should corbyn lose and ready to replace him, sadly this will be another bun fight with momentum wanting a left leaning geezer, whilst the Labour group of MP's is lining up a more centre ground person.
Buts lets see if Labour does hold on to what it's got or increase/decrease in seats across the country.
Cant see UKIP and the other parties doing much.
So we are likely to end up with a conservative govt with a bigger majority, but still having the 30 MP's being investigated which could give T May problems to come in the future.
The CPS though shouldn't have to hold off just because theres an election.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I was adopted at birth and learnt later that my birth mother was originally a maid prior to joining the ATS during the war. I guess I may have inherited my so called intelligence from whoever happened to be my unknown father.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Farron now come out of the woodwork
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Timmy has been handed a heaven sent opportunity with so many "Remain" voters looking for a natural home away from those nasty big two parties. If he ties in with the formidable Gina Miller quite a few metropolitan seats could go the Limp Dim way.
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I wonder what will happen in Scotland
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:I wonder what will happen in Scotland
Where Labour are EVEN less popular than the Conservatives!
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I seriously don't believe it. Things are so bad the Labour Party are trawling for would be candidates on Twitter now!
(Application going in now. As one local activist said, I put up better opposition to Charlie than the local Labour Party and I'm a bloody Conservative member! Wish me luck.
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