Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Maybe barryw you should have read my post,
clearly you don't use the railways, i do every day.
trains are no cleaner
all the rest i have answered.
thats not to say that public ownership is a better way
but the prices of rail travel are to steep and rising all the time
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Like I say Keith - you are looking back with rose coloured specs but at least you agree nationalisation is no answer.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Heike List wrote:Privatisation = profit profit profit. I believe it should be back into the national hands. but not for profit reasons.
Since companies privatised is all about profit making and aiming is high higher and higher. There is no such limit. There will be fancy words invented such as " Standing charge" etc. I could go on and on :) this is what I call super capitalism and happens everywhere.
There should be a healthy 50 / 50 and I think this could work.
There is nothing wrong with profit, you write as if there is. Profit creates tax revenue, creates and secures jobs and wealth. Profit is the key driver for economic success. 50:50 is pie in the sky, no private investor would want the government as an equal partner as it would be a deadweight around the neck of a business. Government has no role to play in this and needs to keep out.
You also do not understand at all how profit is created from what you say. This is not a them and us situation as so many people seem to think.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Sometimes, Barry, I think the Forum is becoming 'them and us'.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Don't listen to these nay-sayers Heike; these jungle-kings were born in captivity.
This is just for you...
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/nov/05/taboo-restore-public-utilitiesIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
- Posts: 759
well I can see where you coming from BarryW, But at the same time look around what is to society come to???
Want want want... I come from a communism run country state. Dont think everything was bad back then nor was it very challenging.
Each to their own experience.
As i am only a new member of this forum and getting to know you all I dont llike to plunge myself right into it :)
One Step at the time, thats how you learn...
Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud. Maya Angelou ☺🌈🌄🌌🌏🌍🌎
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,883
Heike, please plunge all you like and if you ruffle a few of our feathers good as it livens the place up, besides it is great to have another female viewpoint to keep these men on their toes.
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Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
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thank you Jan Higgins
I like to get to know you on here first though. Its not the greatest impression to plunge into it right away.
Thats my kind side
Need a good warm up
Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud. Maya Angelou ☺🌈🌄🌌🌏🌍🌎
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
well said jan, new blood and their ideas invigorate a forum - clearly ms list has those qualities.
it matters not whether we agree or disagree,
Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
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thank you for the kind words
Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud. Maya Angelou ☺🌈🌄🌌🌏🌍🌎
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
you go for it Heike
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Ill-conceived policies.........
'Cheats' Serco and G4S forced to face a grilling from powerful group of MPs
Outsourcing industry dogged by embarrassing exposure of failings is braced for public scrutiny
Executives from scandal-hit corporate giants Serco and G4S face a public grilling from a powerful group of MPs, who are determined to "lance the boils" of failing government contractors.
A source on the Public Accounts Committee said the two companies, which have seen their shares battered this year, will be questioned on Wednesday about "suspicions that they cheated on contracts".
The Serious Fraud Office (SFO) has launched a criminal investigation into G4S and Serco, following allegations they had billed the Ministry of Justice for monitoring 3,000 non-existent offenders on a lucrative electronic tagging contract. The companies could potentially have made tens of millions of pounds for claiming that they had tagged offenders who were already in custody, had left the country, or had died.
Serco, which runs the Docklands Light Railway in London, schools inspections, and the Atomic Weapons Establishment in Reading, has struggled since the scandal, issuing profit warnings for both 2013 and 2014 last week. Staff have also been referred to the City of London police over irregularities in a prisoner escort contract.
G4S, which is one of the world's biggest employers with 620,000 staff, has found itself under public scrutiny for the past two years after it failed to provide enough security guards for the London 2012 Olympics. Both companies have said that they will co-operate fully with the SFO investigation.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
Reg
We may well disagree here!!!!!
Unfortunatly whether private, or under the Nationalised rail, those at the top paid themselves these high wages
there was wastage under nationalised railway
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