Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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A telling contrast between Mr McSweeney1's comment and the headline/link from the London's propaganda paper. (It's as though the editor is a Tory, isn't it?)
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jezza has now reached the point of no return over leaving the single market. His young fan base who do all the door knocking and ancillary stuff in order to put his party into power consider themselves European and still think he will exhort his MPs to vote to remain in a customs union at the very least.
The reality is that he knows that he cannot renationalise industries or intervene with subsidies without leaving with no ties and has now said so.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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This has been coming for some time and rather ironic that the leave voting North East have most to lose by leaving the single market.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-brexit-latest-jeremy-corbyn-eu-referendum-uk-mps-a8343746.htmlCaptain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:This has been coming for some time and rather ironic that the leave voting North East have most to lose by leaving the single market.
I always find it reassuring when MPs (many of whom have never done a productive days work in their lives) tell us what is best for us .................
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jezza is in a no win situation over the single market, left with a choice of alienating those who voted to leave or his army of young supporters by not voting with the Tory rebels in the Commons.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-hard-brexit-david-miliband-eu-single-market-labour-a8350466.htmlhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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As long as Corbyn and his cronies run the Labour party I would not even contemplate voting for them, much to extreme for my liking.
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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And just as much pressure on Jeremy from the grassroots 'Northern working class' areas with a contrary opinion.
The overall Brexit split of 52/48 reflects the closeness of the country's opinion but not that of the 'ruling class' - therefore ALL parties (with the exception of UKIP) are struggling to get to grips with a situation they didn't really expect to be presented with by the electorate.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Looks like the band of brothers are not happy with paying £35 a pop for tickets for the JezzFest when others are now getting them for free (due to lack of sales) !
Hang on. Pi$$ed off that others are getting stuff for free when I've had to work and pay for it. I've been moaning about this for years?
More here:-
https://order-order.com/2018/06/11/41-of-labour-facebook-posts-this-month-about-jezfest/'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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when will the De-selections start?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Surprised that Rosie Duffield voted the way she did stating that she voted to stay in the EU despite Canterbury voting to leave albeit marginally. Her main reasons were that the University was the main employer in the City and that tourism was vital to the local economy, I don't know how either would be affected by not being in the EEA.
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That vote could cost her the seat as MP come the next General Election.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Now is the time to say goodbye, he has had long enough now to impress the voters. Anyone who has taken an interest in politics knows that the main opposition party should be 20 points ahead at this juncture even more considering the Keystone cops we have as a Government. On a personal level most people would prefer Cruella over Jezza as PM - yes really. He must face facts and ignore his ego and step down as head of the party and let someone take over that the traditional support would vote for.
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now going on a prince William tour to the middle east.
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Now is the time to say goodbye, he has had long enough now to impress the voters. Anyone who has taken an interest in politics knows that the main opposition party should be 20 points ahead at this juncture even more considering the Keystone cops we have as a Government. On a personal level most people would prefer Cruella over Jezza as PM - yes really. He must face facts and ignore his ego and step down as head of the party and let someone take over that the traditional support would vote for.
Ego - Jezza doesn't have one; principles he has in spades.
Who would you suggest fits the bill for the 'traditional support'? And why would the non-dom newspaper magnates give them a clear run at the Tories?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The Bishop wrote:Ego - Jezza doesn't have one; principles he has in spades.
Who would you suggest fits the bill for the 'traditional support'? And why would the non-dom newspaper magnates give them a clear run at the Tories?
Keir Starmer and Hilary Benn spring to mind but others may stand out in a leadership contest. Newspapers don't have as much influence as they used to and people are more swayed by social media.
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As a Labour supporter, my primary concern is getting into office as opposed to who the leader is. I am quite sure that if JC wasn't seen as so extreme, he would be enjoying a lead in the polls right now.
However, I also know that if he were elected, Momentum et al would be left at the gates of Number 10 and the civil service would take over, thus negating the concerns of those worrying that JC is too extreme for the ultimate job.