Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
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Yep, PM-in-waiting Corbyn needs to sort it out, or he'll be joining a very sorry list of predecessors, including, but not restricted to:
PM May - Erdogan / the absolute monarchy of Saud
PM Blair - Mubarak / Gaddafi
PM Thatcher - Pinochet / Saddam / Suharto / Zia ul Haq etc.
PM Churchill - Shah of Iran
(Out of respect for those over-sensitive to the word 'Europe', I won't mention that nasty Hitler business, or that nasty Mussolini business, or that nasty Franco business for that matter.)
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Almost forgotten about the Heir to the Peacock Throne.
One of my revisionist analyses of 'where it all went wrong in the ME' revolves around the USA's withdrawal of support from the Shah ,who was only in place due to previous dirty deeds by the CIA and our own SIS back in '53. (I have always wondered if the fact that our bit was run under the name of Operation Boot was some sort of homage to the hero of Waugh's novel Scoop?).
Until that time we had always backed various despots with a real-politic Faustian pact that they could (literally) get away with murder as long as in the Great Game they acted on 'our' side.
Unfortunately at that time Johnny Frog, like us, had put up with all sorts of Arab revolutionaries, handing out political asylum to all and sundry with the unspoken agreement that we didn't give a toss what they got up to as long as any unpleasantness happened abroad.
The Shah turned to Carter for help who, being a very nice Quaker (though a crap president) did a Corbyn on him. The Shah fled. Khomeini returned from exile in France and to add to the West's humiliation members of the US embassy were taken hostage.
From this point on all rulers in the ME knew that when push came to shove they could not rely on the West to back them. Meanwhile all who wished to overthrow the status quo, often to set up an even worse regime in terms of human rights, knew we weren't going to do a lot to stop them.
I suspect that if any post-war president had been in situ instead of the useless Carter the world would be a much better place.
It's all a bit like the Wizard of Oz. Dorothy threw back the curtain to find the Mighty Oz was a peanut farmer from Georgia. If it had been my hero Trickie Dickie he'd have lamped her!
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Jeremy Corbyn to US and North Korea: Ratchet down the rhetoric:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40886690
How very dare he get involved without the chastisement of the press first.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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- Posts: 13,885
I can not understand why she had to resign for telling the truth, admittedly her wording was not the best but an apology should have been enough to satisfy those who were upset.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Bob F no worse than the clowns you support with your party
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Bring me hardline,
Make them vile.
Bring me martyr's
For juveniles
In this world,
where we live,
there should be,
no more bus-in-ess.
So much joy I can give,
As I tax and spend and borrow.
Make you happy
All the years
Never bring me
Any jeers
Let your arms be as cached
As the IRA's were stashed
Bring me doctrine,
Bring me taxes,
Bring me love!
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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The trouble is whenever you Vote Socialist - you actually get Fascist.
Apart from the bit about war profits and death penalties I suspect Jezza would sign up to most of Hitler's programme? I even believe that the Labour party seems to find a bit of a problem with Jews.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:The trouble is whenever you Vote Socialist - you actually get Fascist...
CH's school report summary: 'Confident and outspoken. Tries hard, but lacks attention to detail and is prone to fantasy. Would do well as cod philosopher.'
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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#409 Wow Captain! You'll do as Alistair Campbell's successor.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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More good news for Jezza this morning as a Survation poll for the "Mail on Sunday" shows Labour with a 5% lead over the Tories and a narrow lead for him as a better Prime Minister than Mrs May.
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Bob Whysman
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Do nothing and nothing happens.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Jezza is saying he right things and appears o have a lot of support
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Meanwhile there are those who try to give him the blame for everything.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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looks old for an 18 year old but there again.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Proof that some should keep their legs completely covered when in public.
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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#417 On some things, our Jezza and our Treesa are on common ground. Treesa's holiday Next outfit and Jezza's shopping get-up are definitely not flying off the rails in a stampede of frenzied fashion shoppers.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jezza sounding bullish going into conference season although I think he is a bit slow in getting candidates installed in the marginal seatsty.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/21/jeremy-corbyn-labour-is-now-the-mainstream-with-tories-in-disarray
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