Keith Sansum1
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Lesley
you are correct, doctors can be are fussy as to who they treat and can take you off lists
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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at least our mp got us a polyclinic,didnt he.evan though he is trying to con us that its a hospital.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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con that's the word brian that's his party lol
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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"The NHS is safe in my hands" - David Cameron pic.twitter.com/aXYc1RFHwL[URL][/
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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realy????????????????????
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Even if you have private medicine, you need the NHS in case you become chronically ill
and unprofitable. Or need intensive care .......cake and eat it ?
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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I wonder if ATOS were on the ``Risk Register``?
Courtesy Private Eye..............
Tender is the blight
Disability,
TRICKY questions over the decision to award a new £184m disability assessment contract to the Eye's favourite outsourcing giant, Atos, are to be raised in the Lords this week.
The French service company has already been roundly condemned for the way it mishandled work capability assessments for disabled people (see another shocking example below). But now cross-party peers are concerned that Atos has failed to fulfil the promises made in its tender to run one of four regional contracts to assess the eligibility of hundreds of thousands more disabled people for the new personal independence payments (PIP) - a failure that will cause disabled clients extreme difficulties.
Atos claimed in the tender that it had "contractually agreed" with 22 NHS and private health subcontractors to provide a network of 740 assessment centres across London and the south of England. But in reality there are only eight subcontractors and neither Atos nor the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) is able to say how many of the promised 740 centres will actually materialise. Thus many disabled people with mobility and care needs will face longer journeys - up to 90 minutes by public transport - to reach their assessment appointments, rather than the maximum 60 minutes originally promised by Atos.
Dropped out
In the document, Atos claimed it had an "extensive" network of 16 NHS trusts, two private hospital chains and four physiotherapy providers ready to provide sites for assessments. But nearly a year after it was awarded the contract it has emerged that 12 of the trusts and both the private healthcare providers have dropped out, leaving Atos with just four NHS and four physiotherapy providers. Many of the NHS trusts named in the tender have also said that they did not, as Atos had claimed, "contractually agree to providing accommodation".
The disparity has come to light as the DWP begins to roll out assessments for PIP, which replaces the working-age disability living allowance, across the country.
Atos insisted there were "absolutely no misrepresentations made to DWP throughout the year-long procurement process". It said the government "fully appreciated" that formal agreements with subcontractors could not be in place at the time of the submission of the tender "but that trusts should be named in the tender in any event".
But peers will want to know why the government was in such a hurry to rush through its changes that it was prepared to accept incomplete tenders based only on "initial exploratory discussions" which, it seems, bear no relationship to reality.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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This is so important to the future of the NHS whether or not you support the tendering out
Value for money and cost,, and of course accountability should be top of the list
not rushed through and then find the problems, that in the end will be costly
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Independent....
Special report: 'This can't go on' - NHS chiefs urge new debate on health reforms
An unprecedented crisis is approaching, say the health service's most senior figures
Hospitals are "staring down the barrel" of having to cut the jobs of doctors and nurses -
actions that could lead to another Mid-Staffordshire scandal - unless the NHS radically reforms,
the organisation's head warns today.
In a stark assessment of the perilous state of NHS finances, Sir David Nicholson said the health
service faced a £30bn black hole in its finances by the end of the decade because of rising demand.
And he predicted that unless politicians and the public accepted the need to shut and centralise
services such as accident and emergency care, cardiac surgery and maternity units, the NHS
would no longer be able to cope with demand. Sir David was backed in his remarks by the
Medical Director of the NHS, Sir Bruce Keogh, and the Chief Nursing Officer, Jane Cummings.
They called for a "national conversation" about how to reform the NHS and called for politicians
to be honest with the public about what needed to be done.
"What we're really worried about is an approach that would muddle through," Sir David said.
"It won't. Seventy-five per cent of all the money spent by hospitals is on staff. [We're] looking
down the barrel of reducing staffing on wards and that is just not acceptable."
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Some clear warnings out there
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Always been one of the problems
getting public transport(or private in this case) to/from, hospitals
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Cowboys ...Howard.........patients do not find them funny at all..
Jan Higgins
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From Howard's link.............."East Kent Hospitals Trust chief executive Stuart Bain has apologised to patients for the delays, which he blamed on teething problems with the new system.
He said: "Patients have experienced unacceptable delays in their transport to and from hospital for appointments and treatment. The situation is putting considerable strain on many departments."
NSL managing director Alastair Cooper said the company is "deeply sorry" for letting patients down in an "unacceptable" first week, but pledged the service is improving.
He said: "Unforeseen challenges during the transition phase of this large contract resulted in us providing an unsatisfactory service to some of our patients in Kent.
"We are keenly aware that many patients have a vital dependence on our transport to get them to their essential medical appointments"......
There should be no teething problems in a situation like this that can have very serious implications for the patients who might be very ill, routes (assuming that was the problem) should be well tested beforehand.
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Spot on Jan.......from personal experience just two days ago, the people dealing with the contract
do not understand the magnitude of the task they have taken away from the previous company.....
.lowest bid ?....outsourcing in the NHS has never produced satisfaction.......they know the cost of everything
and the value of nothing.................
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Jan
this is becoming a habit
I AGREE WITH YOU !!
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Private Patients ``dumped on NHS``
Private medical insures have been accused of using the NHS as a `dumping ground`
for the seriously ill by offering cash payments to customers who agree to be treated
free of charge at public hospitals.
Through a controversial web of incentive schemes,cancer sufferers with private health care
cover are being offered £100 a day by Bupa,Prudential and AXA-PPP if they waive their right to
private care.
Insurers will also pay one off sums of up to £ 2,000 to patients needing costly heart proceedures
such as angioplasty or pacemakers...........bloody finance johnnies have no scruples.....
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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theres something wrong here
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Why competition in the Health Service is bad news for patients.
Everyone knows competition is good. Its why we have amazing smart phones
(and why the East Germans had to put up with Trabants). So competition in
health care should also be good. It is an unexamined assumption of our time that
competition will make things better in any area. But is it really so? Like so many
things, it is all a lot more complicated and depends crucially on the specifics.
Competition, it turns out, is great in consumer electronics and lousy in health
care. This is why:
The other side of this imbalance of information is that in a market driven health care
system there is huge power in the hands of the providers of care which can be and is
abused. two recent examples:
● A for-profit hospital chain in Florida has been found to have been performing
dangerous and unnecessary heart procedures to increase its business.
http://www.newser.com/story/151577/money-driven-hospital-chain-allowed-s[URL][/URL]
hady-cardiac-work.html
● Senior doctors in German transplant centres have been lying about the condition
of their patients to fiddle the priorities for available donated organs - some at least
directly gaining financially.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/09/mass-donor-organ-fraud-germKeith Sansum1- Location: london
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this is where things go wrong
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