Just Sioux
- Location: Kent
- Registered: 22 Aug 2013
- Posts: 50
Hey you two….get a room!
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,951
Only if I can practice that mariachi trumpet break on my penny whistle.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,951
'
Expensive water: Germans shower shorter, less often and colder'
Evidence of heroic German self-denial.
Is this a challenge? Must we respond? Do we re-assert our own Germanic self-discipline and show we can save even more water by diving into a cold sea for a scrub up first thing?
Or should we thumb our noses at our own high energy bills and water shortages, and carry on luxuriating in a hot scented bath with lights blazing, like effete Normans?
Alas, there is no guidance.
https://www.morgenpost.de/wirtschaft/article239973766/Teures-Wasser-Deutsche-duschen-kuerzer-seltener-und-kaelter.htmlReginald Barrington likes this
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 2,979
Nein! Shower with a friend instead - macht Spaß!
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,708
Official stats confirm German economy shrunk by 0.1 per cent in the three months to September, compared with the same period in 2022. Growth was stagnant in the first two quarters of the year. Another three months of contraction to the end of 2023 would place the country into technical recession.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,708
Average real GDP growth, 2010>2023 (IMF data):
UK: 1.53%
Germany: 1.45%
Euro area: 1.25%
France: 1.18%
Spain: 1.00%
Italy: 0.37%
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,281
Found myself having an interesting discussion with some folk at the EU Embassy where I am. When I reassuring suggested that "we'd be back, don't worry, it was a generational thing more than across party lines..", they replied, "Do you think the EU would have the UK back?" I was aghast and said of course! The greatest way to prove us wrong is to welcome us back with open arms.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,745
Interesting point Neil.
Added to that , is it a priority for you leader ?
He doesn't appear to care even what is/isn't a vote winner
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,281
I think Labour want to rejoin the EU. I also understand that they can't say that just yet. That's not duplicitous, it's just that the case needs to be made and public opinion needs to be clearly in favour. We're not there yet.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,951
What you mean, of course, is that consent must be manufactured so the electorate can 'freely choose' to rejoin.
But even here Labour have little to do, as the Conservatives started that process more or less as soon as the referendum results were in.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,281
Not at all. They'll arrive there on their own. So far, people have gained nothing. That might just be ok, if they hadn't lost - but immigration numbers are through the roof, so that debunks the "take back control" stuff.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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Well, that kind of proves my point. The Conservative Party never wanted to leave the EU; even Johnson had his two letters ready to go with the wind whichever way it blew; while the PR was 'get Brexit done' and 'take back control', the participants in the negotiations were trying their best to make it fail. And outside, the Conservatives were carrying on as the New Labour, progressive, open-borders party that Cameron made.
I repeat, Labour have a straight road here, with a flat Conservative New Labour surface.
However, though the sight of the big decrepit UK bus trying to reverse towards the disintegrating EU terminus will be spectacle enough, there'll be sufficient numbers digging pot holes and blasting craters to multiply the thrills.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,951
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,281
Weird Granny Slater wrote:Well, that kind of proves my point. The Conservative Party never wanted to leave the EU; even Johnson had his two letters ready to go with the wind whichever way it blew; while the PR was 'get Brexit done' and 'take back control', the participants in the negotiations were trying their best to make it fail. And outside, the Conservatives were carrying on as the New Labour, progressive, open-borders party that Cameron made.
I repeat, Labour have a straight road here, with a flat Conservative New Labour surface.
However, though the sight of the big decrepit UK bus trying to reverse towards the disintegrating EU terminus will be spectacle enough, there'll be sufficient numbers digging pot holes and blasting craters to multiply the thrills.
I myself worked on it in the very early stages, under the guise of the "EU balance of competencies review". I think a more accurate assessment would be that the policy decision was taken, and then everyone had to work backwards to find any benefits.
Just Sioux- Location: Kent
- Registered: 22 Aug 2013
- Posts: 50
Neil Moors wrote:Found myself having an interesting discussion with some folk at the EU Embassy where I am. When I reassuring suggested that "we'd be back, don't worry, it was a generational thing more than across party lines..",
What a load of tosh! Didn’t everyone of voting age have the opportunity to vote?
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,751
Very little to do with party loyalties or generation much more to do with the EU policy of open boarders where criminals and far to many unskilled money grabbers could enter the UK unchecked.
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victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
- Posts: 991
I voted to come out ,but I Think I was wrong.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,745
77 not the first time !!
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,708
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,745
I still think Sunak policy of he will stop all the boats was always going to fail
Don't know how he spin that one
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