Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Sir James Munby: "...I can only say with bleak emphasis: we [the State] will have blood on our hands."
Mental Health care provision, Britain, August 2017
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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His Grace moves in mysterious ways, this is what he refers to.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40814824Captain Haddock
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Blasphemy in soooooooooo many ways. Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Jan Higgins
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Mark Carney could be one of the reasons why the economy is not as buoyant as it could be with his continuous doom and gloom comments.
I wish he would go back to Canada together with his negative opinions.
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Not sure about sending him back, Jan. However, I totally agree with you about his doom and gloom attitude. He is supposed to be neutral and a solution finder. I don't believe that his role and wages permit him to be a 'stick in the mud'.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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I disagree, Labour is the solution. New Labour was the problem - the caption is misleading as it suggests that Labour now is similar to the neo-liberal "intensely relaxed" New Labour hijackers.
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Weird Granny Slater
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Yep, we've pretty much had a Tory government since 1979. Blair and Brown were mini-Thatchers: they might have worn red socks but their knickers were blue.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Yep, we've pretty much had a Tory government since 1979. Blair and Brown were mini-Thatchers: they might have worn red socks but their knickers were blue.
People who benefited from the minimum wage, working tax credits, Home Start, Sure Start, shorter waiting lists for NHS surgery, over 60s heating allowance and bus passes etc would happily see the return of those Tories Brown and Blair - might even see nurses and midwives get bursaries again .
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Keith Sansum1
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Howard that is correct but lots of other issues he didn't deal with
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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In fairness Keith New Labour never hurt the elderly and vulnerable like the wicked Tories do now.
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house where not £97000 in 79 they were around £25 ?
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Keith Bibby wrote:house where not £97000 in 79 they were around £25 ?
Maybe up North, still not much more if run down in a few places, but certainly not in the rest of England.
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Reginald Barrington
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Certainly not in dover, my parents brought their first 3/4 bed on heathfield ave for £14,000 in 78, it will be signed into my name soon so as to avoid inheritance tax, yippee ( and no I don't have the slightest inkling of guilt your right rev!)
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Are there any figures for the 1940s? After demob my father paid about £200 for his in Tower Hamlets, and was offered a row of five for a knock-down £800.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Howard that is correct but lots of other issues he didn't deal with
And lots of other issues caused, NHS PFI, introduced tuition fees (albeit at a £1k) and there was also the matter of an illegal war, which that Mr Chilcott wrote a pamphlet on.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Now here's a funny thing. Tucked away in today's usual Guardian whining about child poverty, Brexit doom and housing chaos, the latest figures from the ONS.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/aug/08/pensioners-living-in-golden-era-as-income-rise-outstrips-workers
It would appear that the
AVERAGE gross income for a pensioner household soared to
£29,000 in 2016 and that over the same period the gross income for working households doubled from £20,200 to
£41,900.
In essence, as we all secretly know, unless we have spent all our spare money on new toys and foreign holidays and not invested in a pension scheme, been so useless and/or lazy that we are basically unemployable, chosen to have more children than we can afford to keep or married/shacked up with someone even more feckless than ourselves, in the words of Harold 'Supermac' Macmillan 'We have never had it so good'.
'That's all very well' I hear you say. But nobody can afford to buy a house. Conveniently forgetting that all houses are owned by someone, and presumably when they inevitably drop dead, someone will purchase it).
So here's the UK House Price to Earnings Ratio (which I note is trending
DOWNWARDS)
Which admittedly looks bad
UNTIL you look at B of E base rates (which being far too low, I would suggest are partially responsible for house price inflation plus the fact that personal savings are at an all time low?)
Which is why house sales and mortgages granted are still ticking over quite nicely thank you.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
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Capt, re: #38
Behind the growth incomes was a steep rise in private pensions, said the ONS, which increased sevenfold over the period. Whilst an impressive article, it doesn't compare apples with apples. The amount of private pensions, back in the day, reveals the reason.
The state pension has also doubled in value in real terms, rising from £5,600 in 1977 to £11,000 in 2016. True, but those relying on the state pension only were typically in pensioner poverty.
Immediately after Margaret Thatcher won the 1979 election. She announced that the earnings link with pensions and other social security benefits would be abandoned. This was the biggest cut by far of any of the measures introduced in the 1980s and 1990s. Source:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2000/nov/09/socialcare.comment1Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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For Heaven's sake Bishop! Still banging on about Mrs Thatcher! The 1979 election was nearly forty years ago and 1990 over a quarter of a century ago.
We are here and we are now and I think it looks pretty damn good.
Why not join me and give an uplifting sermon about the joys of God's creation and the wonder of life for a change (though I must admit there are far too many spending their time 'considering the lillies' rather than getting up off their arses and seeking gainful employment. I suspect that when the good Lord pointed out that they neither toiled nor spun he was using it as metaphor rather than advising a lifestyle choice?).
It would make a change from your regular reminders that we are all miserable sinners and the best we can hope for is forgiveness of our many transgressions.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
