"Elite Greedy Pigs"
- Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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14 November 2012 21:36201428what divide is that kieth. - 15 November 2012 17:27201549Lords expenses cheats continue with their noses in the trough,one of them having been in prison
for fraudulent expenses claim Lord Hanningfield aka Paul White,former Tory leader of Esses County
Council has returned to the Lords to again claim attendance money and expenses.
Lord Warwick after a three month prison sentence is planning to return to the Lords to claim
the same.
Lord `Micheal Dobbs` not welcome in the Lords is also back to claim the same gravy train money.
We are all in it together !!!!!!! - 15 November 2012 17:50201563i thought they were automatically debarred from criminal convictions and/or being insane.
- Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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16 November 2012 11:14201693once they have been covicted there should be no way backALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 16 November 2012 11:31201695Should that be applied across the entire criminal justice system then, Keith? It wouldn't be fair otherwise, would it?I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
- Keith Sansum1
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17 November 2012 09:56201905what sitting in the lords???ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 17 November 2012 11:02201915Being barred or not from sitting in the HoLs due to criminal conviction and/or imprisonment is an irrelevance. As irrelevant as their supposed right to a jury of their peers or their entitlement to a silk rope once was.
It is high time the HoLs was reduced to the same level as that of their 'constituents', i.e. to nothing.
The abolition of the HoLs is the one political signal that would lend credence to the notion of we being all in this together.
Yet another failing of the recent election for PCCs was the requirement that Candidates be free from any and all criminal involvement right back to the womb.
[I think I am right in saying that a prison term of less than five years is no bar from standing for election as an MP.]Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - Keith Sansum1
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17 November 2012 18:21201970interesting thoughts tomALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 18 November 2012 12:47202050Private Landlords are ``evading`` at least £ 500 million in Tax on rental income..HMRC say this is serious and
significant Tax evasion..HMRC have launched a `task-force ` to target highest risk cases of evasion.The actual amount
of Tax lost to the Treasury by Tax avoidance and evasion must be mind boggling.
It is paramount that the government reform the regulations to close these unacceptable loop holes.
The law must be changed to make ``nearly ``everybody moral.........on Tax anyway.......... - Keith Sansum1
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18 November 2012 12:52202051if we believe in fairness thats correct regALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 18 November 2012 17:38202091seems that not many egp's like paying corporation tax.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/nov/18/aa-owner-acromas-corporation-tax - Keith Sansum1
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18 November 2012 18:56202094All coming out of the woodworkALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 22 November 2012 22:04202787"Poor people should be prepared to take more risks because they have the least to lose, according to the minister for welfare reform.
Lord Freud said the benefits system was "dreadful" and allowed lone parents and sickness claimants to "have a lifestyle" on the state.
The Tory peer, who is helping to push through a radical overhaul of the welfare state, insisted he understood the reality of living on benefits, arguing "you don't have to be the corpse to go to a funeral".
In an interview with The House magazine, he said: "We've got the circumstances now where... people who are poorer should be prepared to take the biggest risks - they've got least to lose.
"We have, through our welfare system, created a system which has made them reluctant to take risks so we need to turn that on its head and make the system predictable so that people will take those risks. I think we have a dreadful welfare system."
Lord Freud dismissed the possibility of taking part in a television documentary which filmed him living on benefits for a week, something a number of politicians have done in the past.
"I have thought of the issue," he said. "The trouble is, it's a stunt when someone like me does it because you do it for a week. That's not the point."
He added: "I think you don't have to be the corpse to go to a funeral, which is the implied criticism there."
Lord Freud advised the Labour government on welfare after publishing an independent report in March 2007 on the Welfare to Work system. He said former prime minister Gordon Brown "thought he could soften me up and then dump me in with his officials and I would just capitulate" in talks they had on reforms.
He added: "Which I thought was a pretty demeaning thing for a chancellor and prime minister-to-be, to think that was his role. And in practice a pretty foolish strategy when you're up against someone who's an investment banker, who gets yelled at every day of his life, if not three times, by chief executives, finance directors and chairmen for one thing or another. So, if he was wanting to get an outcome, it was a pretty poor strategy.""
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/freud-poor-more-risks-203000204.html
There seems to be three things being said above,
-The poor have nothing to lose.
-The status quo is 'misguided'.
-The noble gentleman was not allowed to slash and burn, as he sorely wished to do, when Gordon was on the scene.
It may just be an awful reporting of what he said or he is a terrible communicator, but as things stand I find myself wishing that he be late for the next funeral he attends.Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 23 November 2012 05:00202791In the context of his comments, what he actually said he is 100% correct. Not the Tom misquote of course.
Strange to see a former Labour conspirator actually speak sense on such a subject. Clearly Frank Field is not alone. - 23 November 2012 10:08202804"In the context of his comments, what he actually said he is 100% correct."
What is he saying that is so spot-on?
I can readily see that he uses much the same cloudy and cryptic rhetoric that we often get from you Barry. Much as a box of chocolates has a picture of a cute puppy on the lid; are we to get chocolates or bits of puppy when we undo the ribbon?
So, poor people have the least to lose, this leaves much to the imagination. Not least the calls for reductions to H&S rules...the sooner we get the children of the poor up them chimneys the better?
So, we have to make the system predictable, an assertion left hanging in a way that sets the cogs of cogitation a-spinning and a-whirring: Does he mean that benefits should be readily available to kick-in between the claimants occasional bouts of temporary/casual employment - with the claimant having about 80% of his earnings discounted from any benefit calculation?
Thus creating a flexible pool of easy-hire-easy-fire labour?
Maybe there is not that much risk, not yet sufficient risk, in what I have laid out.
So, what might be the turn of the screw? 100% of earnings offset against benefit, benefit denied to any and all who fall from the ladder or crawl from the well before the job is done to the satisfaction of the 'employer' - or perhaps only delayed for a set period of so many set meals?
On reflection, he is correct in one way. Come the next election the poor shall have a wide selection of overseers to chose from and little to lose in not choosing the way you wish, but alas, until there is meat on the bones of this risk without reward notion the risk remains with the Politicians. Who may well be told at the next election to, "Go risk yourself!"Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 23 November 2012 10:25202807A scheme designed to net trillions from global tax havens is being scuppered.
Switzerland and other offshore specialists are doing their best to frustrate international transparency in taxation.
"The world is seeing the first stirrings of an emerging new architecture of global transparency in taxation which could, if pushed forwards, help governments for the first time raise serious revenues from the estimated $21-32 trillion sitting offshore. Switzerland, in alliance with the tax havens of Luxembourg, Austria and Britain, is leading the charge to derail it."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/22/scheme-trillions-tax-havens-scupperedIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 23 November 2012 11:02202811Tom - we have a society in which far too many people are happy to sit back and make a lifestyle on benefits. Far too many people say 'the government must do something'.
We are also, as a society, far too risk averse, covering our backs, scared of the shadows.
Time for people to stand on their two feet. Stop blaming other people, stop depending on benefits for all or some of their income and to take responsibility for themselves. We need to take risks to prosper, risk and reward are directly related and we need more risk takers to drive us forward. - 23 November 2012 11:07202812Spot on Barry, govt needs to get out of the way, at every level they are the problem not the solution.
They spend too much of our money and they spend it badly - 23 November 2012 11:13202814So...nothing to say, really.
You are the fellow who has been crying out for de-risking, though not for those who have so little to lose. "stop depending on benefits for all or some of their income", what of those who rely on interest payments from savings or guaranteed increases of dividends from their 'investments'?
Surely nothing is going to get us all up of our behinds and in it together than for each of us to have little or nothing to lose?
We could stop bonuses and dividend payments and use that money to invest in people?Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 23 November 2012 11:23202815You don't mean,dare I say it,a human capital economy Tom
