DT1- Location: Dover
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Absolutely Jan and Howard.
It is something we instill in our children, the concept of leading by example. To not do so in the name of greed just disenfranchises society and dilutes the idea of cohesion. In an age of information, the resentment grows and this truly is a 'broken society'.
As for Jobs and Moore (not British as far as I am aware) they are people that we should all perhaps look at as products of their own merit, as opposed to members of a social elite, that merely perpetuate and self serve to their own cause.
These people have made themselves, been entrepreneurial and succeeded. I thought this is the sort of person that will save us from the financial hole we are currently in?
Ross Miller
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A better example of a highly successful CEO who "gets it" is Warren Buffet, who has always lived in a comparitively modest house, drives an average executive car and gives large chunks of his remuneration to charity
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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GaryC - You of course totally distort what I say and frankly it is not worth the dignity of a proper reply. Your personal attacks on me simply underline the paucity of any valid debating points you have on the specific issues.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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BarryW.
Ditto.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Keith Sansum1
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all a bit personal
but to get back to the thread,
of course those few that give dosh to charity then good on them
but when we see business's and such like as howard says failing and still the chiefs get big 49% pay rises whilst staff are laid off theres summat wrong
baz
if you truely believe there is no them and us you are in cloud cuckoo land
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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deleted your other thread as requested keith.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not only in the boardroom where failure can be rewarded, much more seriously the n.h.s. is a hotbed for it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8857511/NHS-fatcats-take-pay-offs-then-come-back-for-more.htmlKeith Sansum1- Location: london
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I think you can find many industries like that howard
private and public
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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this is rather different keith, some of these people have put peoples lives in danger and getting "well sorted" for it.
secondly it is our tax payers money that is financing their lifestyle.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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im not disagreeing with yer howard
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Barry - welcome to the wonderful world of communication it really does not matter what you thought you were conveying with the words you chose to use, it is absolutely what the audience (in this case Gary) perceived as the message contained within those words.
In order to communicate effectively you must, without any bias, put yourself firmly in the shoes and head of your audience and then frame your communication in their context. Or of course you can carry on as you are...
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Ross you sometimes infuriate me with your reasonableness. Here you go again. I enjoy Barry's spats with the left-leaning majority on the forum and would miss them if Barry wound his neck in.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i would not have thought we had a left leaning majority on here, in fact i would say it was slightly more right wing.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Always aim to please Peter
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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LOL Ross - Gary will read whatever he wants to read in it. I say it straight.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Speaking as an impartial observer, Barry, GaryC says it straight too.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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I think you just proved my point
Putting it another way - in order to get a different result you need to change behaviour
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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We must always walk in the other persons moccasins.
Jan Higgins
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Ross, with regard to..............
"Putting it another way - in order to get a different result you need to change behaviour", I do not believe in miracles.
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy of Independent.............Business Editor.........Margareta Pagno.
Sir Martin Sorell`s pompous defence of his £ 4.2 million pay packet is almost reason enough to ban share incentives.
``Is Narcissism the new Capitalism?
For information only.............................
Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Diagnostic Features:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, need for admiration, extreme self-involvement, and lack of empathy for others. Individuals with this disorder are usually arrogantly self-assured and confident. They expect to be noticed as superior. Many highly successful individuals might be considered narcissistic. However, this disorder is only diagnosed when these behaviors become persistent and very disabling or distressing.
Complications:
Vulnerability in self-esteem makes individuals with this disorder very sensitive to criticism or defeat. Although they may not show it outwardly, criticism may haunt these individuals these individuals and may leave them feeling humiliated, degraded, hollow, and empty. They may react with disdain, rage, or defiant counterattack. Their social life is often impaired due to problems derived from entitlement, the need for admiration, and the relative disregard for the sensitivities of others. Though their excessive ambition and confidence may lead to high achievement; performance may be disrupted due to intolerance of criticism or defeat. Sometimes vocational functioning can be very low, reflecting an unwillingness to take a risk in competitive or other situations in which defeat is possible. Individuals with this disorder have special difficulties adjusting to growing old and losing their former ?superiority?.
No further comment.