Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes it is ,when alot of towns and citys are on the way down but Dover getting a new shopping area, and the western end of the port has started to look very gran .
#So stop morning about it and the D.D.C, do your bit by using what is there lots of C/SHIPS coming in and out we have the good weather to get out in.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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A positive post at last. Indeed our glass is much more than half full.
(Look's like Vic's new tablets are working!

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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes all 18 of them each day.

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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It would also be better if Dover can stop the ones sleeping in the shop door ways ,I know some do have a room or flat in the Town or Deal.I am not saying all do but some have,also keep clean the fronts of the shops not in use and clean the windows. Where does the funds come from to do this? well the town parish council do have funds to keep them clean.All been said many times before by the public so I do not hold out much hope of it being done.

Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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With apologies to Edward Taylor and Gerald Finzi, who were serious folk.
Dover's gone up with a triumphant shout.
The Port with sounding trumpets' melodies:
Sing praise, sing praises out unto Whitfield,
Sing praise seraphicwise!
Lift up your heads, ye lasting doors, they sing,
And let the DTIZ enter in.
Amen.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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The sea is calm tonight.
The tide is full, the moon lies fair
Upon the straits; on the French coast the refugees
Set sail and are gone; the cliffs of England stand,
Glimmering and vast, out in the tranquil bay.
Come to the double-glazed window, noisy is the piling!
Only, from the long line of spray
Where the sea meets Western Docks infill,
Listen! you hear the grating roar
Of traffic which the queue holds back, and fling,
Out their window, up the A20,
Faeces, and urine, and then again begin,
With tremulous cadence slow, and bring
The eternal note of sadness in.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Yeeees, as Paxman would say; the positive vibes proved to be somewhat transient Moriarity.
(Not my real name.)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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There are many good things going in Dover such as the St James development with its multi screen cinema and nearby Bench and King Streets looking vibrant. However the anti social crowd who have colonised the seating in the town make a visit quite unpleasant at times.
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Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
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I heard from La Salle Verte. They have stopped their evening venues, live music and cabaret's etc.
They have had their windows smashed several times, and attempts at burglary from the back entrances etc.
People are now afraid of the violence and presence of many anti-social elements.
They are simply not going into the town at night.
There is no police presence or any sense of being safe.
Its all getting out of control both day and night.
You constantly get blah blah blah from the powers that be. However, no action or preventative measures.
What measure would you or any of you take? if this problem was within your remit?
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
the rough sleeper ? by costa coffee / hsbc was having an altercation this afternoon, colourfull words where being used. very un pleasant indeed.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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I have no doubt that Kent Police, were it within their ability to do so, would provide a more permanent presence in the town centre. Why would they want to do otherwise? Their remit is to protect the public. I have several police friends and I don't doubt their integrity one bit. None of them would personally shy away from any incident in Dover if it could help a member of the public.
However, their numbers have been cut to strangulation point. Who remembers the PolFed warning to Sainted Theresa who claimed they were being alarmist? We live with the results of Tory cuts everywhere.
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John Buckley
- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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Dover may well be on the way up whereas the inhabitants of the town centre are definitely on the way down!
The weirdos were out in force again yesterday ( is it the availability of the many empty shop doorways or the weather that actually brings them out? ) and after being hassled at the ATM I then had to endure running the usual gauntlet of drunks, beggars and loonies. Not really the shopping experience I was after!
God only knows what any visitors must think of the place, one can only hope that they just spend their time here at the castle or seafront etc., and give the town as such a miss. But that in itself I suppose creates a catch 22, less visitors or even locals spending money in the town promotes even more empty shop doorways for the dossers etc., to frequent. Not an easy problem to solve I appreciate and perhaps even unsolvable?
Dover is indeed at times a strange place, an area of both outstanding beauty and squalid degradation, but if the town’s unwanted problems could be resolved it would be near perfect.
We live in hope!

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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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I don’t go into town very often .
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Guest 706- Registered: 25 Oct 2010
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christine.a wrote:I heard from La Salle Verte. They have stopped their evening venues, live music and cabaret's etc.
They have had their windows smashed several times, and attempts at burglary from the back entrances etc.
People are now afraid of the violence and presence of many anti-social elements.
They are simply not going into the town at night.
There is no police presence or any sense of being safe.
Its all getting out of control both day and night.
You constantly get blah blah blah from the powers that be. However, no action or preventative measures.
What measure would you or any of you take? if this problem was within your remit?
I just looked on their page and they have evening events for June and July
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
#12 Do you too have an alter ego, John? Or are you really masking a false gender? I only ask because identical wording was used today in a post on another forum. The post was from one Christine Norman. How very odd.
John Buckley
- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
- Posts: 615
ray hutstone wrote:#12 Do you too have an alter ego, John? Or are you really masking a false gender? I only ask because identical wording was used today in a post on another forum. The post was from one Christine Norman. How very odd.
Afraid not Ray, apart from a very rare and infrequent posting on the Dover Athletic fans forum this is the only one that I ever contribute to. ( if “contribute” is the right word of course! )
Never heard of “Christine Norman”, but if she writes in a similar vein to me then she is obviously a very intelligent girl!
In fact I wasn’t even aware that there was another forum on local issues etc., but nevertheless, as you point out, very strange?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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ray hutstone wrote:#12 Do you too have an alter ego, John? Or are you really masking a false gender? I only ask because identical wording was used today in a post on another forum. The post was from one Christine Norman. How very odd.
That poster is known for plagiarism.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Post 558 here was stolen from the Facebook page of Joanna Thomson of the " Save the Sands" pressure group.
https://www.dover.uk.com/forums/dover-forum/dredging-threat-to-the-goodwin-sands?p=28John Buckley
- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
- Posts: 615
Thanks for the info’ Howard, seems strange though to copy stuff of little importance?
Mind you, this could be the start of my new claim to fame, the most plagiarised poster on Dover Forum!

Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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brian
the incident you refer had 3 police cars pull up
over kill?
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