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• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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  26 June 2016     11:33315137
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  I see that the SNP version of Lady Macbeth has called for talks with the EU over Scotland's future relationship with them. Naturally they have told her where to go as they are still part of the United Kingdom. It looks likely that a referendum will be held and Scotland will cut ties with us but I think they will have great difficulty in securing membership of the EU as they won't be nett contributors.
• Neil Moors

  • Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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  26 June 2016     11:38315138
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  Foreign Policy is not devolved, so there is no question of Scotland being able to do its own thing outside of a referendum. However, those calls for a Referendum are legitimate following Brexit.
  
  Having said that, I agree entirely with Howard, I cannot see the EU welcoming Scotland with all the associated financial uncertainty, and of course, Spain is always going to veto Scotland in any event.
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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  26 June 2016     14:09315143
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  n.ireland are thinking of going the same way ,and teaming up with southern ireland
• Paul Watkins

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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  26 June 2016     14:32315145
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  Correction Brian , Sinn Fein are thinking the same way.
• Brian Dixon

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  26 June 2016     14:46315146
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  same difference paul.part of the n.irish government
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
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  26 June 2016     15:04315148
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  Cannot see the two Irelands joining up the Unionist majority would never accept rule from Dublin.
• Reginald Barrington

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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  26 June 2016     15:09315149
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  The majority of N Ireland would never want to split from UK it is only the same republican opportunism that the terrorist Adams has always tried since he became legit
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  Arte et Marte
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
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  26 June 2016     16:21315150
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  a feisty debate ahead.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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  21 August 2016     15:15316961
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  Sturgeon living in luxury while her constituents suffer.
  
  
  http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/702382/Sturgeon-s-EU-slum-Squalor-filth-and-sex-crime-in-constituency-branded-shame-of-Scotland
• Guest 649

  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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  21 August 2016     15:58316964
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  This is sad to see but we spend a lot of time in Scotland and I tell you it is not like that only in the big citys and towns and you can pick that kind of thing in England to, even in our own town of Dover.But you need to go and see the true Scotland and the highlands in it and wildlife we love it and will be going again very soon.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
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  21 August 2016     16:12316967
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  The article is on the First Minister's constituency and makes no reference to Scotland as a whole.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
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  2 September 2016     12:39317410
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  http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/02/snp-nicola-sturgeon-to-hold-away-day-for-all-mps-to-bolster-case-for-
  
  
  The SNP in general and Sturgeon in particular seem unable to accept Referendum Results.
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
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  2 September 2016     16:34317421
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  yeah ok.
  
  
• Guest 649

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  2 September 2016     18:39317429
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  Great it shows part of where we are heading We cannot stop playing it now I will play it all the way up when we go.
• Guest 649

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  4 September 2016     11:40317481
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  When I get to the high lands my name goes from Matcham to Sir William Wallace.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
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  15 October 2016     17:08318946
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  The First Minister seems to be losing the plot, Scotland cannot do separate deals with EU member states with or without the UK having access to the single market.
  
  
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-37661319
• Guest 1590

  • Registered: 22 Oct 2015
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  15 October 2016     18:22318949
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  I think this is a mechanism to exert pressure and to keep their agenda at the forefront of any ongoing debate with regards to Brexit.The First Minister needs for the two to be irrevocably entwined within the Scottish conciseness or the conciseness of what it is to be Scottish.
• Button

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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  15 October 2016     18:35318952
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  At least Scottish voters (and those in Gibraltar for that matter) had access to the referendum; the Channel Islands and I think the Isle of Man did not.
  (Not my real name.)
• Reginald Barrington

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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  15 October 2016     19:06318955
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  Being as they are self governing crown dependencies and not part of the United Kingdom that only seems right to me.
  Arte et Marte
• Button

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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  15 October 2016     20:41318959
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  But because the UK is leaving, so are they.
  (Not my real name.)

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