Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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18 February 2011
12:2393144That is what is on offer, along with most out of town parish,s they do not what any big developments done in their parish.
Keith Sansum1
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18 February 2011
12:4793150vic
i think you will find even the lib dems and locals go along with some developement
but are asking it not to be all in whitfield
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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18 February 2011
13:0493156We will see Keith in May but I still have my ACE card to play yet.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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18 February 2011
13:0693158lots of ace cards
but its a gamble
but in the end its about winning
at the mo
UKIP has nio seats in dover district/town/county
and thats unlikely to change
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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18 February 2011
13:1293162the housing issue will play a big part in the election up at whitfield, that's for certain.
all candidates can expect a thorough grilling from the voters when they knock on doors.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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18 February 2011
13:1393163In the last by-elections in December he stood for County, District and Town.
Came third in front of the LibDems in county where they had a paper candidate but last in the other two, and in the district election one of the people signing his nomination papers was a LibDem supporter at the general election, so some of his support there was LibDems switching as they had no candidate.
It will be much harder fightinmg them in a seat where they have support.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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18 February 2011
13:2093165Well again lets just wait and see as you know I like agood fight win or lose,But Mr Newsam My 400+votes did stop the blues at the county.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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18 February 2011
13:2093166Well again lets just wait and see as you know I like agood fight win or lose,But Mr Newsam My 400+votes did stop the blues at the county.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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18 February 2011
13:5093168The Dover Alliance is an alliance of independent candidates who are standing for Dover. On our election flyers you will not see huge statements about national politics with obscure implications that the candidate will pop up to Westminster in their spare time to sort out the national government. Our concern is for this town and the well being of its residents.
As a party we provide support for independent candidates who wish to work for Dover (the clue is in the name). In our early years we may have made some poor choices of candidates but that has been sorted and we do not discriminate on political leanings.
Kieth, we have had this debate before, there are more views to politics than just red or blue.
David has chosen to move in another direction, and we wish him well just as we would a member that wanted to move into Labour or any other party. All we ask is that as an Alliance member you do not belong to another party. We do not whip our members or expect them to follow a party line, their votes are their own for how they best see the towns interests.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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18 February 2011
14:0393169The Alliance is on the way out and we will see them down to about 3seats in May. The Alliance do have this agreement with the blues that is why we do not see the blues standing for town if they did by now there would be no Alliance,some of the public have no wish to vote red and with no blues standing they have gone for the Alliance.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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19 February 2011
00:1193251chris
noted no comment on mr webb.
also don't agree on your whip, although now your leader is no longer with your political party that may change.
vic
im a bit baffled as to your comments that alliance won't be around, down to 3 seats then go on to say people dont want to vote red, surely that would mean there will be more alliance cllrs??
i don 't see the alliance gaining any new seats
nor any other party.
chris
you are right there are more than 2 parties there are many more and if you read my postings that i applaudad the alliance standing against labour to stop them having a free run.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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19 February 2011
00:1693252No there will be other partys standing I hope.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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19 February 2011
00:1993254vic
there will be tories labour, lib dems ukip and prob others standing in whitfield
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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19 February 2011
01:2093255I have received a competence from members of various political parties to carry out in Dover: I am responsible for The Pledge in Dover. If either of you gentlemen, Keith and Vic, wish to know more, contact me by email, and I'll let you each have a copy of it to sign and send off by freepost.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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19 February 2011
01:2293256alexander i have no idea what your on about please explain
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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19 February 2011
01:3393257The Pledge, Keith, asks for a referendum on the EU, so we can democratically decide if we want to be in the EU or out. The Pledge members advise that we vote to be out of the EU, however, a democratic vote would decide the question.
I have accepted the offer of the Pledge team to promote the Pledge in Dover. All one need do is put name and address on a slip and send it by freepost to the Pledge head-office. The slip is part of a leaflet explaining the details. If you would like to see a copy, I can let you have one.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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19 February 2011
10:0093281Keith I will assure you that there is not, nor has there ever been, an an Alliance whip, neither actual nor implied. Our chairman is our chairman and as such serves to keep meetings on subject not to impose views on other members.
There is nothing to say about 'Mr Webb', other than wishing him a long and happy retirement, he is not now nor has ever been a member of the Alliance. As such he is free to support who he likes as long as such support does not interfere with his job and I have never known his views to do so.
To repeat myself, local elections are concerned with local issues, the only national issue that is relevant is how government policy will affect the local infrastructure and then how best to deal with it. If you are concerned about and wish to influence national or European policies then you should be standing in European or national (general) elections. It takes more to work for the towns best interests than just opposing national policy because it comes from the 'wrong party', you have to get the best out of them for the town and do your best to ward off those that are wrong for it.
Vic, there is no 'agreement' with the Conservatives, or any other party, but we can and do talk to all parties that are prepared to work for Dover. District Council is Conservative led and we have a Conservative government so of course we talk to the Conservatives, just as we work with Labour members at town level.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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19 February 2011
10:0693282chris
very quickly on mr webb
he was recruiting for the alliance upon your formation and i have proof of that which did then interfere with the job.
but that's all past now and move on.
i don't believe you on being independent but we can agree to disagree
vic appears to have some info on the alliance links with the tories and thats interesting.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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19 February 2011
10:3493284Keith, I do love your conspiracy theories.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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19 February 2011
10:3793285deal in facts mate peter
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