Guest 648- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I was at the opening this mornng very good facilty.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Yep, great to see a garage back in place there. You'll notice that the entire 5 yr budget that DHB allow for PDCT was spent on this one site.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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will someone put me out of my misery and explain what "pdct" is when it's at home.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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As Tom says elsewhere, the internet is a font of useful information
Acronym Definition
PDCT Portable Data Collection Terminals
PDCT Paediatric Day-Case Tonsillectomy
Port of Dover Community Trust doesn't get a look-in.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that means that people who want to have their tonsils out will have to wait 5 vears.
hardly seems fair to me ray.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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From DHB's website:
Unprecedented tangible benefits will be delivered through the creation of a Port of Dover Community Trust (PDCT) would be established with an immediate cash sum of £10 million with a tripling of the PDCT's assets through the holding of shares in the new company. The PDCT will be independently chaired and will be both representative and for the benefit of the local community and the long term regeneration of the area. As a trust port, the Port of Dover cannot pursue such a course as all of its profit has to be ploughed back into maintaining and enhancing the port. The port will, through the PDCT, be in a position to do so much more for Dover and its community than it has been able to do for the past 400 years.
Q: Can you explain a bit more about the Port of Dover Community Trust that you are proposing?
A: The Port of Dover Community Trust will receive a cash sum and then hold a long-term shareholding in the privatised port company so as to align the interests of the local community in a tangible and visible way with the future development, growth and success of the Port.
This proposal is wholly consistent with the Government's philosophy of empowering local communities to help themselves, harnessing local resources to build a stronger society. While Dover has benefited from having an international port at its heart, the local community equally suffers the social and economic costs of heavy traffic through its town centre. The resources that we propose to provide to the PDCT will help kick-start initiatives created by the Dover District Council and others, which could contribute to the regeneration of Dover Town.
DHB has therefore proposed to DfT that a sum of £10 million from its cash resources be injected into the PDCT at privatisation and that its investment in the Port should have an initial value of £20 million, structured so that the PDCT can from the outset expect some minimum level of annual income.
During constructive discussions with local democratic representatives, they have each emphasised the importance of the Port of Dover Community Trust being transparent, fully accountable for the resources contributed to it and having the confidence of the local community and established and managed by the community for the community. To this end DHB has developed detailed new proposals for the scope, resources and governance of the Trust to address these issues. We have since engaged formally with a broad range of key community representatives to create positive momentum, interest and enthusiasm for a PDCT which works for the community. The established Working Group under independent Chairmanship is taking forward the task of discussing the objectives of the PDCT, the composition of the initial PDCT board and the process for appointing board members in the future.
In general, the PDCT will:
• seek to cultivate enterprise, build assets and secure local community prosperity;
• engage in the economic, environmental and social regeneration of the area;
• be independent and self-sufficient;
• be community based and managed; and
• involve itself actively in partnerships and alliances between the community, voluntary, private and public sectors.
The objectives could include the following, under the overarching stipulation of retaining an appropriate connection with the Port:
• regeneration of the waterfront/beach/promenade area;
• improving the skills and education of the local workforce;
• the Public Realm Strategy ("sense of place");
• public recreation facilities;
• raising business awareness, skills and knowledge;
• entrepreneurial activity; and
Blah blah blah.
Do keep up, Howard.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon
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doh what a bore.

howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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if only it were that clear and simple peter.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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PDCT in this context is the Port of Dover Community Trust. The 'fig leaf' organisation set up by the Dover Harbour Board to try and buy off the community to back its sell off plans. The Port of Dover Community Trust is granted by DHB a total of £15million in cash over the first 5 years after privatisation if they are successful in selling our port. My point is that far from being the source of untold wealth that the DHB tell us it would be, this amount of money provides the equivalent of one petrol station and a shop - untold riches, urm, think again.
Brian Dixon
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whats the price of a liter up there dose any one know.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I have trouble getting my head round £15m for that site. Are you sure there shouldn't be a decimal point in there somewhere?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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cor what a beast,what ever next blacked out caddies for the mayor and mp.bullit proof of course.

howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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made your views known there tom.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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It's the same old enemy combated in the same old way, Howard.
Not to mention #s - 1,3,6,7,10, 12 and #13 itself.
On the one hand; Have confidence in and speak-up your town.
And on the other hand (the hand that doles-out the cash) Let us at every turn encourage and seek to profit from voluntarily wiping the town from off the map.
The Dover Town Team seek to do much on a fraction of what it has cost for this single enterprise. (or should that be 'exit-prize'?)
And some foreign gas-guzzler to-boot! No classic cars about?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 648- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Where has this tread moved to?On a positive note 12 jobs have been created.Whitfield has gained another shop and motorists now have another petrol station..Should we not be glad that people are prepared to invest in our district ??Positive positive

Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
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Well Sue its good that area is now back in use, although I will miss the car wash as the guys there always did a superb job, but a little bird whispered this morning that Petrol prices were going to be competitive with Tesco's which they really need to be.

Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Would it not have been possible for the car wash to stay?
Audere est facere.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Tom, a Texas State Trooper's Ford Crown Victoria IS a classic car. At least for those of us who are familiar with American muscle cars.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson