howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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courtesy of the telegraph
Details of the generous terms available to Whitehall officials were leaked in an escalation of the increasingly tense relationship between ministers and civil
servants. A growing number of officials are understood to be working nine-day fortnights by cutting short their lunch breaks and extending normal hours by staying in their offices until 6pm. Civil servants are also allowed to count delays in arriving for work because of late trains or traffic congestion towards their contracted working week.
Many of these working practices would not be permitted in the private sector, where most people are contracted to work up to 40 hours a week or more. A government source said: "Most Fridays, some departments are like ghost towns. It is a very generous system with hardly any controls."
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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And don't forget they can also 'work from home' (Ha!) when lesser mortals can't.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Flexitime and home working can benefit both the employer and employee !
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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'Can' is the key word there Paul. They can also be abused and frequently are.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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there is allso a dont,they dont have to work there.
Jan Higgins
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My civil servant son does an enormous amount of his paper work at home, why waste time and money going to the office to do exactly the same thing.
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Guest 730- Registered: 5 Nov 2011
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Nothing wrong with a nine day fortnight as long as they do the hours and don't all take the same day off. When I was with BT I worked a fourteen day three weeks for a while. Worked a bit extra each day and took a Friday off every three weeks.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Post 6
Jan
Because at work the boss can keep an eye on his work
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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They did have a period when they had a new boss who insisted the paperwork was done in the office but that was changed as not so much got done as previously when it was done at home.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Well theirs the way to go then jan
Close all the expensive snivel services' offices and sub the work out to freelance home workers,
I'm getting on the phone to pickles, should save the taxpayers a packet
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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An old friend of mine used to do exactly this at Pfizer. Of course it is only suited to certain jobs but why shouldn't people use flexible hours to suit them?
It is possble to name many jobs where this 'shocking act' is possible and being utilised. From builders to dentists.
Another public sector bashing article that is actually meaningless. I think somebody should tell the telegraph we that we live in the 21st century with wonderful technology such as "mobile phones" and "email". Remote access is common place...even old hat!
Of course people abuse such systems but if we sign up to the idea that working hours are set in this way, no one with a job would post on this forum between 9am and 5:30pm. I would even go as far to say (and this is only a guess) that people even post on here whilst *shock horror face* 'at work'.
Anyway, best get to sleep I'm working tomorrow, just a few hours in the morning ...it will save me staying late on Monday.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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flexible working is just anther way for the public sector to toss it of.
But the cuts are coming
Long overdue.
DT1- Location: Dover
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Working in the private sector I also used to do things to spread the workload.
Keith, you seem to have a problem with all public sector workers, regardless of whether or not they are are conscientious and work hard.
Why you would take delight in ANYONE losing their job I don't know. Cuts are necessary but taking enjoyment in such a thing is just perverse.
Flexi hours are everywhere public and private. The building industry is another area that makes good use of flexible working (large and small scale). Although not always possible it can result in delivering projects faster and driving the price down. Perhaps this is why local firms have problems tendering for developments such DTIZ: their attitude is just a little too parochial.
Wow, this generalisation stuff is easier than I thought.
DT1- Location: Dover
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Ps. I just posted that in between working.
Does this count as 'tossing it off'?
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I work from home occasionally, i can save myself 2 hours of driving, get more work done in peace and quiet, and also have a long lunchbreak to do volunteer work for Dover !!
Been nice knowing you :)
DT1- Location: Dover
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There you go. It really is that simple.
Well done Paul.
Wait a second Paul, you don't work for the public sector do you? If you do, what you have just described is an awful, gold-plated, deficit creating practice. You should lose your job as soon as possible.
However if you are in private sector, that is great, keep up the good work...ps we need more growth.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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You sarcy sod Darren - funny though.
Roger
Working from home is extremely cost effective IF it is managed effectively. You don't, as a boss, have to eyeball people to get the work done, just monitor the work itself. It soon notices if output is low or significantly under the expected.
DT1- Location: Dover
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Very true Bern.
It has to said that my initial spurt of energy has subsided and procrastination has set in.
I will have to finish my work later as it must be finished today!
On the up side of putting things off, I have made a pie, hovered the house and cleaned the car.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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DT1
I support all low paid workers especially the one's that have had there wages and working conditions decimated by the labour party, and the liberals open border polices.
It's the over paid public sector workers at the top, And them that are not giving value for tax payer's money that get me going.
In the public sector you have become addicted to utopian working conditions that the taxpayers just cannot afford to keep borrowing to support, it's your stubbornness to change that will costs you jobs.
We cannot continue to pay double money for workers at the top
GPs £100000 a year, no weekend work or after hours work
In France and Germany GPs £40000
Head masters £100000
Hospital manager's sky's the limit
Council managers £150000 plus
The list can go on and on
Full pay on day one of sickness, unaffordable pensions, and private health plans
37 hour week, over the top holiday.
Your all in for a hard landing, the public do not support your demands,
They have been bled dry.
