Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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You can make suggestions but I'll tell you tomorrow!
Intriguing init?
Terry
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Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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A clue.........
...........it's in Dover.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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ok terry.
you are now doing a victor.
this is going to be a let down, i can feel it in my water.
let me have a think here.
8 million quid.
i know, doing up posh barrys garden.
do i win a prize?
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Vic's campaign fund?
Freebie buffets for the various officials who seemingly run this town?
Concreting in the Wellington Dock with the intention of turning it into a plaza?
Windmills/cable cars?
A ten minute lecture by Cherie Blair at the town hall?
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Briony and Saskia's shopping budget!!?
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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This email from Lorraine Sencicle explains all:-
"Yesterday (Friday 9 May), my report, written as Dover Lead -PPIF (PCT) came before the KCC Scrutiny Committee. I was supported by the Chairman of the PPIF-PCT, Janet Bentley, PPIF-PCT Member Denise Smith, PPIF-PCT supporter Pauline Majors, PPIF-EKHT member Reg Hansell, also Wendy Hansell and Alan Sencicle; came before the KCC Scrutiny Committee.
Senior Officers of both the PCT and the EKHT were also there and gave evidence.
I am delighted to say that it was agreed that Dover is to have an £8m new Community Hospital."
Well done Lorraine who bombarded "them" who wanted to take everything away from us. Also the irrepressible Pauline Major who single handedly collected thousands of signatures and of course Reg Hansell who refused to lie down and shut up.
Terry
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Well done to all those involved. yet another sterling job done by those who refuse to lie down and be walked on.
BRILLIANT stuff
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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WOW! I will second that Mandie, A Big Well Done to all, Great News for Dover!
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Hey PaulB, lol! re Briony and Saskia's shopping budget, would even be some left over for me,
Nice dream........
Thats not the end of it however we must keep pressing - Reg collected another 1000 signatures today - 8 million will not even buy equipment for a basic hospital and we dont want money spent on a dead end situation.
what we want is a new building with parking and expansion capability that can serve the District. Would you trust the powers that be to act in our best interests?
See you all on the 24th.
D
I wasn't going to pour cold water on this when I read it, but it has to be said that £8M won't stretch that far.......I will give as much support as I am able to, but this has to be just a beginning.......
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,294
To my mind what it comes down to Bern is grabbing what we can. It's always the gentle tap tap tap that gets somewhere. If we don't ask we won't get anything and the various Trusts will ignore us. We have to keep reminding them that we are here and want what is rightfully ours. They have been very underhanded in the past.
They closed the Minor Injuries Unit at BHD at night as an "experiment". They then said "Oh look, not as many people have attended so we might as well make it permanent".
Of course not as many went there, it was shut!
I for one will gratefully accept the 8 million and then say "And the rest?"
Terry
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Absolutely Terry - I completely agree - we have to start somewhere, and £8M is fabulous. I just have some concerns about the direction this is taking, knowing a little about how those corporate local government decisions are taken, how stats are manipulated (as you suggest) and how naive local people are taken advantage of.....
David, Terry. Reg etc. if there is anything DCAL can do to help. Please give us a shout.
We are always happy to help where we can.
Mand x
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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8 million quids to improve and expand buckland would go far.
in a brand new development, very little.
terry seemed to say that it would be a new hospital.
incidentally, i am not taking anything away from the people that campaigned so hard.
grateful thanks to all of them.
I'd like to second that - totally well done to the people who have raised the cash......bloody good job, nice one!
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I don't know what the plans are Howard, or if they've even been made yet, I suspect not.
To my mind the ideal would be to keep the parts of BHD that are good and demolish and sell off the rest. That would bring in additional revenue so that the clinics and MIU could be brought up to date.
Problem is that I suspect that the proceeds from any sale would go into the NHS pot and would not be ring fenced for Buckland.
Oh that we lived in an ideal world.
As David said "See you all on the 24th" Let's keep shouting.
Terry
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Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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8 Mill and counting..... no worries we will be there shouting on the 24th. Yes Terry I had to take Saskia to Minor Injuries the other week with a severe leg problem, I didn't realise they had no evening access anymore so we went back 1st thing next morning and it was absolutely packed with small children and workmen with injuries. It turns out she had a torn muscle and I must say we had great service.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Just before Jean and I went on holiday on the 27th. of April, I sent round a petition about the hospital to the over 500 odd people whose email address I have, asking them to sign the petition and get their friends, neighbourbours, relations and work colleagues to sign it; also asking them to pass the petition on to all their friends, neighbours relations and work colleagues and so on and so on.
Lorraine replied that she had sent it on to over 100 people, so if everyone did that, there would soon be 25,000 or more signatures.
A community Hospital is a good start, but Thanet have around 110,000 residents and they have the QEQM; Ashford have about 120,000 residents and the William Harvey; Canterbury have around 130,000 and the K & C - Dover has around 108,000 and the proposal to build around 10,000 more homes which must bring at least 20,000 more people put us up to around 125,000 to 130,000, so we must be eligible for a General Hospital based on those figures.
Not only is a lot of space required for a hospital, but also car-parking - none of the above hospitals have enough car-park spaces.
Community hospitals don't (generally) have the heart, stroke, transplant and other surgery resources, human or equipment, that a general hospital does, so an awful lot of commitment in terms of capital outlay on all levels of staff and necessary equipment.
Roger
Guest 648- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have quiet on this subject as my family members hold high positions in the NHS,however i just need to correct or throw a comment at some of these postings.Yes Dover District is approx 107,000,but people from Aylesham ,Sheperdswell etc would be expected tp go to Canterbury.Likewise if you live in the North of the district its Margate.A lot of people from Sandwich ,Deal Ash go to Margate.That leave Capel Alkham people to go to William Harvey. Thats how the map is looked at.WE know that junior doctors could not get their traing at Buckland.Im not against improved facillities however we need a modern facillity in centre of town with some intermediate beds...Unless someone has major surgery they return early.If you god forbid require a major operation as my late husband had then its up to London for specialist care.My friend had a stroke and was transferred from Canterbury to London.
We will not get a new hospital general that is like William Harvey until the houses are built.Thats my opion not gospel truth.