Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
HOWARD;
Sheila is correct i ran the youth club for a short time and the pitch was used by both ourselves, and lots of other children as well as the gentleman mentioned by sheia who lived in westbury
sadly the council(like the removed play area) got itself bogged down under health and safety as to why they couldnt do things.
so like many issues local people found alternatives, as to waste time going no where with the council you can only spend so much time on.
it is an ideal spot for locals to use, and with the removal of the play area(never replaced) you can see the vision of our district council
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
Howard, I think you are missing my point, just cut the grass and never mind filling in the forms. what the council do not know will not hurt them as you are not changing anything.
Many years ago when we were in a council house there was a large expanse of scrub wasteland over the garden fence. We cleared a patch, fenced it and extended our garden, eventually the council found out and charged us a nominal rent for the land. Both parties were happy we had a large garden and the council had a rat free bit of cleared land, a couple of neighbours copied what we had done.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
jan
the post above from keith sums it up, if someone does cut the grass and mark up a pitch then they will be liable for any accident or injury caused.
you mention what happened many years ago, things are very different now.
the alleyway clean up of 7 years ago had no problems with red tape, very different this time.
i seem to remember local volunteers doing clean ups at the shakespeare beach that was stopped too.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
howard;
you mention the past clean up, which had the same red tape, but you have to do things for the greater good.
if you have locals, agencies, all on board and taking part, you can turn the agument back on the council, and show them for what they are, but also that locals want to see a better priory area thus the clean up.
the council caved in and provided the lorry and sacks/gloves etc.
sometimes its also best to get local working officers who appreciate what is trying to be done rather than directors who dont have the same interest.
over the years i faced many such frustrations but with so many positive people around it was easier to embarrass the council and keep things moving.
of course the funniest one was the flowers that locals paid for and wanted to put on every lamp post on the folkestone road, the council tried every piece of health and safety legislation they could as a reason why it couldnt be done, but caved in and the flowers were in place
sometimes you can become frustrated so much so you look for alternatives which i have done myself.
in aycliffe we used to use the rec ground on a weekly basis but because the council would not budge on it;s view we had to find alternatives
before we used the rec ground it was used by drug users and im sure if not already it will go back that way.
we wanted to take over the lease of the ground, look after it and maintain it
and bring youth football from across kent to that ground, we did it without changing rooms for one season, but the league required changing rooms, and thus our moves to the planing dept who flatfly refused.
end result youth football was lost at that facility, youths lost out
we went to an alternative venue
in priory the footbsall pitch was used and i did get the grass cut and lines marked and goals sorted many times, but we began to get into heavy health and safety so again an alternatve site was found.
end result, priory/.aycliffe residents youth lost out
area became an eyesore
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