howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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perfect area for 5 a side football maybe more a side.
just needs grass cutting and white lining.
less than 10 minutes walk from a massive residential area.
Keith Sansum1
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howard
you trying to get me going again lol

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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i see it so often keith and it really gets me down, same as that massive area at the western heights sports ground.
before anyone points out about the economic downturn it was like that in the good times.
besides how much does it cost to cut grass and paint lines?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Shouldn't cost more than a few fivers.
I bet the goal post also needs painting, though.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
If the local community feel there is a need why not club together and sort the site out, but maybe they are happy with it as it is.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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can you imagine the red tape with health and safety coupled with endless form filling?
i don't know who owns the site.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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a few yards away is the former play area dismantled about 9 years ago.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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isnt that football pitch once owned by the borstall people.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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no idea brian as far as i know dover district council, dover town council and english heritage own parts of the heights, probably other bodies too.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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howrd,there is a rumor that the football pitch you photografed belonged to the borstal ,so i am told by locals in aycliffe.but who took it over i do not no.wheather its ddc or dtc or some one else.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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if it was the borstal property brian, that would mean it was owned by the home office.
the plot thickens.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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there was a borstal officers club up there somewhere,the football pitch may have been attached to that.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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There was a field in front of the Officers Mess which was owned by the Home Office but is now owned by a certain helicopter operator that also owned the Channel Tunnel village.... the photographed field isn't owned by them/him
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i think there is some confusion here, all 3 of my pictures were taken within a long stone throw of clarendon place.
there is a former prison officers social club across the road from the western heights playing fields much further away.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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All of the land between the moats and 'Clarendon' is DDC owned:
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
Howard, I am sure DDC will not complain if the grass is cut and white lines marked, it is not as if you are digging it all up for allotments. They would have to visit the site to find out unless somebody tells them, of course it all depends whether the community cares what happens to the land.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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jan it took months of wrangling and form filling to get permission to clean up the alleyways, only the diligence of roger walkden and jenny woodbridge and others made it eventually possible, even then they needed someone with local government knowledge to fill out the right forms.
adding white lines is moving into a different stratosphere.
the community does care as evidenced by the numbers that turned up for the clean up, most of us do not have the wherewithall to take on the various councils.
in the next few days i will go up to the top of the western heights and post pictures of the dereliction up there.
no doubt in 10 years time someone will do likewise.
I can see the outline of Westmount in the distance
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Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The football pitch is owned by DDC, they did come and mark it out about 3 years ago, the then Priory Forum ran a youth club and we pestered the authority to cut the grass and mark the pitch, I am sure if they were aproached it could be done again, as kids do like to go up and have a game, there used to also be a Sunday group that used the pitch, run by a chap who lived at the end of Westbury Crescent
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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There was a road between the Officers Club at the Borstal and the sports pitch, the sports pitch had it's own changing rooms.
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