Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Not about Dover this time, but I notice that the long-awaited Turner Contemporary Gallery opens in Margate next Saturday (16th).
http://www.turnercontemporary.org See you there.
Apologies if this has been covered already somewhere as I don't have the time to read the whole forum.
This is so very exciting - well worth the wait!! I hope to be there.

howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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there is a lot of hostility to the project in thanet, many think that the money would be better spent on other things that would benefit local people.
my own view is that margate has an opportunity to reinvent itself and draw the arty types and luvvies in from afar.
from then on in it is up to local businesses to take advantage of the new visitors, if they do then jobs for locals will be created.
Exactly - an opportunity to diversify and open up new pathways. And I think it is fab!
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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i think there will always be hostility somewhere Howard. I can imagine that many other towns would love to have it. An asset to East Kent.
Brian Dixon
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just wondering how long it will be before it becomes a doss house for detainees and undesarables.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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quite right andrew, people slag off the seasports centre and the new promenade.
most people think they were paid for out of our council tax.
i like both, they were financed by various sources very little of local money.
And what a difference they have made to the seafront. Lovely!
Jan Higgins
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Isn't a lot of the hostility to the Turner Gallery because of the style and position of the building rather than the idea of the gallery itself.
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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The gallery is all very well-but you can't buy arty fartiness-you can throw as much money at a place as you like,but if it ain't cool it ain't art. Rye and Hastings have cracked it,with natural development-but along the way they have had to pay the price of drop outs and drug infestation. They are trying to do it in Folkestone and just because you paint all the buildings like Balamori and you PAY high profile artists to do stuff, that doesn't mean it's going to become the art centre of the universe...and this in a town with an already significant drug problem. I'm sure the Turner at Margate will work-but the town musn't forget its roots. They need to retain the town's traditional diversification and continue with arcades, fish and chips,candy floss,jellied eels,kiss me quick hats,pedlows and grubby post cards. Thank goodness they are trying to revive Dreamland-now that would be something-it wouldn't eclipse the 'Fighting Temaraire' -but it would sort local tourism,completing a marvellous visitor's package and avoid the down side of arty farty.
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Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Surely Turner's links with Margate make it a logical location. It is not as if the development is totally contrived. The Folkestone Creative Quarter is a different case altogether.
Jan Higgins
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If you are referring to my post Andrew, I was just saying they could have positioned it elsewhere in the town not where they have stuck it.
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Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Andrew I concur with your view on that valid point. As long as there is the desire to bring art to the common man as a part of the plan. A day with the kids in the paddling pool, rounded off by a visit to the gallery-marvellous!
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Ian-keep flying that flag-I like it! Art doesn't have to be elitest. Tracy Emin actually comes from Margate-now she epitomises art and the common man (although they couldn't afford to buy it,just to see it.)
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Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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Art only becomes Art when it becomes expensive otherwise no one talks about it. ( FACT )
If Tracey Emin had left some of her stuff on my door step the council would have been called the very next morning.

grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Hopefully it isn't just the Turner by name rather and contains info on the man himself, it is just a stones throw from where he stayed on many occasions is is a very appropriate location.
It has also lead to the revivial of one or two delelict buildings in the immediate vicinity which is a good start

Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Its all very exciting this and the people behind getting it to Margate need to be hugely congratulated. It would be oh so easy to open this in London and thereby be guaranteed instant success. There is a huge art following up there in London so the market is already cultivated and ready made. Its brave therefore to do this in Margate and let us hope its a success.
We are badly needing art facility in this part of the world. I used to enjoy the galleries in London myself..so I havent looked at a painting proper since I left there all those years ago now. I remember many a good exhibition there...Turner indeed, Degas, Picasso, the Impressionists. Fabulous to see these pictures in the flesh.

Brian Dixon
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to be honest on this subject,margate like dover needs regeration.8 million or so would have gone some way of tidying up margate.no but instead they put up the eyesore a so called art gallery instead.
oh by the way who wants to see a bunch of over priced colection of scriberlings.