Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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#1
If anyone would like a copy of the proposed Folkestone Tramway System plan-I can email a copy on request.
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Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
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#2
Yes please Richard.
terry@londonroad.info
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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#3
On its way Terry-Cheers
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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#4
yes please - rosspmmiller@googlemail,co,uk
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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#5
Ross-I couldn't get that address to work -I've sent it to the info one.
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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#6
ok that great thanks Richard
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Guest 713- Registered: 19 Mar 2011
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#7
I would like one please
roger.husk@ntlworld.comTerry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
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#8
Thanks for that Richard. Musing to myself about Dover I just wonder what a tram route could be. Given that the seafront would be out of bounds because it is isolated by the A20 and that the castle is at the top of a far too steep gradient, where else could it go?
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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#9
I've been giving Dover in house transport some thought... and certainly believe that Dover and modern tram -trains have a future. Those who have received the Folkestone plan will realise the huge amount of research, collation and calculation that goes into these documents.It's nothing like that yet.
Nonetheless here is a brief vision. The relationship between local travel and tourism will be symbiotic- it's Dover after all.
Imagine if you will, alighting on a tram at Priory station and departing into Priory Tunnel. Emerging from the tunnel between that and the A20 viaduct you would enter a loop and come to a stand at Western Heights halt. Here if you would step off, cross over the line on a foot bridge and embark on a funicular railway car (similar to the Leas Lifts) to elevate you to the view point adjacent to St Martins Battery-there it would be a short directed walk to the wonders of the Western Heights. Alternatively you could stay on the tram and head for either the cruise terminal(a new branch to be shared with heavy rail freight) or turn left under the A20 viaduct(Limekiln Jctn) and join Snargate St. The old Marine Station would receive the trams and another track would take them further down the quay alongside the Cruise Liners-to receive their high spend passengers.Mainline Steam Passenger specials could also access this route and also meet the cruise liners.
You could also be travelling up Snargate St to towards the town centre and continue via Townwall St(or Sea Front) and Marine Parade to a terminus at the Eastern Docks. At a suitable point along the east Cliff would be a halt at another Funicular railway to take you up to the Castle.
A Branch would come off at King st , for Market Square, Cannon St , Biggin St and London Rd. The tramway could reach as far as Crabble(The Mill) and Temple Ewell. Coming back to Priory Station, you could also take a tram on the main line to Shepherdswell and reach Eythorne(via our friends at the East Kent Railway) or maybe further in the future. Conceivably Snowdown could also be reached.
Last but not least there would be a Folkestone Rd Branch terminating at the Hallowed Tram Shelter!
The Tram Depot could be situated on the site of the old motive power depot on the Western Promenade. Visiting Steam Locomotives could also be serviced here.
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Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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#10
1000% more sensible than a cable car !!
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
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#11
So I assume Richard your tram would be third rail and flywheel? Or are you considering OHL for the streets?
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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#12
No I project that they will be powered by hydrogen fueled I/C engine plus flywheel inertia-wherever on the system. Third rail is an option if a system is totally restricted to the main line.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#13
"Alternatively you could stay on the tram and head for either the cruise terminal (a new branch to be shared with heavy rail freight)"
Would be ideal, Richard, and considering that the Carbon Emission laws in Britain would require a freight-by-rail service at Western Docks rather than another freight-by-road terminal, do you plan going it alone?
Usually a campaign of this magnitude requires many interested people to participate.
Who knows if the Government ever ear-marked my representations to the DfT for a freight-by-rail terminal?
But best of luck in your proposals anyway!
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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#14
alex,do you know the oill and water theroy,they dont mix nor will trams and rail frieght,unless they are on seperate lines.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#15
Brian, I'm referring to Richard's statement "Alternatively you could stay on the tram and head for either the cruise terminal (a new branch to be shared with heavy rail freight)".
I'm interested, because such a plan could not be carried out without consulting the Department for Transport, with whom I have lodged this proposal (rail link for freight transport at Western Docks) in March 2010, and still have ongoing contact on this proposal.
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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#16
Under the new Network Rail policy light rail vehicles can mix with heavy rail operations-hence my overview.
Alex I am not planning anything at the moment-I am fully taken up with TSS Dover and The Remembrance Line at the moment
Above I have tried to portray an inspiring vision of what could be done for and in Dover. As time permits I guess I could start to help develop a plan - something I certainly do not have the all skills to expedite myself.But I am part of a team and maybe Dover is on the list in the not too distant future.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#17
Plans for tram transport, Richard, and electric buses, are in line for the future, as well as increased transport of freight by rail.
Rather than a popular commonsense policy, it's likely to become a necessity.
One way or another, we'll get there!
Guest 813- Registered: 7 Nov 2012
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#18
Check out the Parry People Movers on the Stourbridge Town-Junction line. Lightweight, versatile, and about as close to a tram as Network Rail would allow on their metals.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#19
alex,the dover trams will be powerd by kent coal dug by kent miners from kent pits.ok
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#20
Brian, the more likely version is powered by electricity.
Yes, electricity can be obtained through coal, but not only...
Petrol is volatile in terms of supply, so road transport may not be an option in hard times.