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- Location: Dover
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Ssh - you'll encourage Vic to post about Ramsgate again!
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Button wrote:Ssh - you'll encourage Vic to post about Ramsgate again!
That made me splatter my coffee.
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Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
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After my appalling journey to France back in July, I was terrified of the return.
Pulled up Sunday evening with no queue in Coquelles at check-in, drove through to the PAF (about 30 seconds to stamp passports) straight onto Border Force where it took a bit longer because my wife dropped my passport in the car and we had to search for it
then straight down onto a shuttle!
From check-in in France to driving off in Folkestone took about 1hr 30mins, staffing at all points was superb
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TheThinWhiteDuke- Registered: 7 Jul 2016
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AndyPol wrote:After my appalling journey to France back in July, I was terrified of the return.
Pulled up Sunday evening with no queue in Coquelles at check-in, drove through to the PAF (about 30 seconds to stamp passports) straight onto Border Force where it took a bit longer because my wife dropped my passport in the car and we had to search for it
then straight down onto a shuttle!
From check-in in France to driving off in Folkestone took about 1hr 30mins, staffing at all points was superb
You got lucky. Trust me. If you had turned up last night it would have been a different matter for example.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62655148
See what I mean about poorly maintained? And the "poor communication"? Can't blame Immigration Controls for this one like they often do when they muck up. Plus five hours is not an acceptable time to be stuck in any tunnel.
These sorts of "technical difficulties" happen way too often.
Couldn't run a train set imo.
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Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
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I know, I was extremely lucky, and with the wider use of social media and smartphones being grabbed for anything these days, photos emerge quickly which prevent ET hiding behind "technical difficulties"!
It's only a very large figure of eight train set
Watch this space, my friend works at ET and they said they always have issues on BH weekends!
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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I saw the footage and a passenger's interview on the lunch time news, what an awful way to treat your customers.
It made me wonder how Eurotunnel cope with those like myself who are unable to walk more than a few feet.
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Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
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Everything running well so far, fingers crossed for the weekend
TheThinWhiteDuke- Registered: 7 Jul 2016
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AndyPol wrote:Everything running well so far, fingers crossed for the weekend
Tell that to the five hour queue at Calais Ferryport yesterday.
Button- Location: Dover
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TheThinWhiteDuke wrote:Tell that to the five hour queue at Calais Ferryport yesterday.
Well I never, don't tell me UKBF is as bad as PAF?!
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Once again, the undeniable truth that having left the EU, there are now more checks than before - and by definition, it takes longer for each vehicle/person to pass through the ports, both sides of the channel. I guess the question is only whether it is this much longer, or that much longer.
Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
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We left the EU and have no right to just hop in and out of the France as we please. Wait until ESS comes in next year and then you'll see chaos! Might only be £7 per non EU national but you need to be seen by a law enforcement officer (PAF) which will add a couple of minutes per passenger!
Regarding the chaos in Calais the other day, that was caused entirely by the Eurotunnel farce. People were simply turned away from ET and told to drive to Calais. Unfortunately, when a large train set can't be run properly and it results in thousands of extra cars unexpectedly arriving at a port, towards the end of school holidays, it's a perfect storm!
BF and PAF are simply convenient scapegoats when they are just doing the job required by their respective governments.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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So , isn't it the case the govts should have planned better
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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My issue is not so much the lack of planning, rather the disingenuous way the government is pretending nothing has changed. It's an insult to our collective intelligence. We've left the EU, the border is now an external one for the EU, and therefore it's going to take longer to cross it. It's what we wanted, it's what we've got.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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i didnt want it, now causing long ques on the a20 and beyond.astma has increased along the a20 tract.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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AndyPol wrote:BF and PAF are simply convenient scapegoats when they are just doing the job required by their respective governments.
So it would seem: "Ferry operators DFDS and P&O Ferries apologised for the long wait times at UK border controls on Saturday."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62783358(Not my real name.)
TheThinWhiteDuke- Registered: 7 Jul 2016
- Posts: 363
New Calais port badly designed and not being addressed or admitted to, and also (cough cough, (whispered)), brexit and subsequent EUSS scheme causing absolute mayhem for everybody involved also not being addressed or admitted to, (cough cough).
From what I've heard from people on the ground.
Not first hand experience at all (cough cough).
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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Without cough - cough , I concur Calais absolute mess. Travelled over in March & whilst waits are the norm , nothing like the chaos & mess when we travelled again in August.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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