Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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Absolutely Brilliant I moved to Dickson Road in 1982 and remember the Yard Castle Harris had at the time and the shop everyone called the owner Sailor an old Barnardo's Boy I think,I knew about the Water Tower giving Tower Hamlets its name.Great stuff had to call Cllr Ronnie Philpott and tell her,bet she enjoyed it.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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Jack Woods is the caretaker in the film and the quarry was owned by a Charlie Powell some relation to 'Stuff' on London Road.
The school was completed in 1973. So that would be right Ray.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith the butchers on South Road was a Co-Op butcher.
My dads shop was in Tower Hamlets Street a few doors up from the Dewdrop.
Yes just think of the businesses in Tower Hamlets Street:
Pub
Butchers
Betting Shop
Garage at bottom
Bakers opposite it
Greengrocers top
General Grocery store opposit.
Then in the streets running off:
the barbers
a small supermarket (Co-Op)
Co-op Butchers
Newsagents
Cobbler
Fish monger
Post Office
Another pub
Sweetshop - oops two of them near each other, one Kings (I remember going 'round the jars')
There are more I have forgotten.... You could live your life and buy everything you need in just those few streets.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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What a brilliant old film, showing a lot of different aspects of the area.
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Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
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Thanks for the names DT1, it all helps to flesh it out.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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A charming piece of film and an excellent social history. How can something from my lifetime look so old?
It brought back many memories but especially of my "Pinky & Perky Sing the Classics" LP!!
Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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Lovely footage. So evocative. I have plugged the fact that it's here on Facebook, so hopefully lots of nostalgic Dovorians will have a look.
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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I enjoyed this enormously. Apart from the 'Donald Duck' faux pas with the backing music, this almost had the feel of an Oliver Postgate film. Dreamy, somnolent, affectionate, observational - we have lost something of value here.
Ourselves.
Innocence, pride, time for each other. And did chlldren really dance round a Maypole then? The narrator has a proper Kentish accent, like she wuz spoke, and like my grandad used to speak - before the Mockney outwash took over totally. Hangings are no loss, though, even if they were long gone by the 70s.
What is the point of 'progress' if all it does is make people more alienated and unhappy? Life is supposed to be getting better, not worse.
Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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Hear hear, Andy.
Brilliantly put, as ever.
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Thankyou, Andy.
Part of the problem is that the individual citizen feels disempowered and resigned in the face of enormous economic and social pressure - e.g retail behemoths such as Tesco, out of town shopping in general, or Political Correctness (which is really a prescriptive system of mores imposed by the Left that have filled a values vacuum in the wake of the collapse of existing family and religious structures. A system which has replaced doing something out of a genuine altruistic impulse with a fear-driven impeerative to be seen to make the right noises).
So many people adopt a nauseating, every-man-for-himself attitude that seeks to do no more than stake their grotty little claim in the rotten status quo rather than change things for the better.
The biggest influence in western society today is - sadly- not Jesus Christ, Karl Marx or any other familiar religious or political figure, but Mr Machiiavelli.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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An interesting old film... it was good to see Kathleen Duncan, artist and writer, pictured.
Here is a picture of a painting of hers we bought in the (late 70s?),
called "Cactus Fantasy" - I love it. Like a stained glass window.
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Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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And once again, Andy, you raise the level of discourse above the usual torpor, self-serving cosiness and plastic politicking behemoth that year-on-year stalks our hometown - stalks our hometown into the ground.
Keep it up, old son. Dover needs you. Desperately.
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Wow,that was good Andy & Andy.
Watty
Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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Thanks Paul!
We are separate people, Andys Stucken and Stevens, despite rumours to the contrary!
Hope all's well with you,
Andy
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Must be the trade Andy.
See the business is getting a high profile!
Look after youself.
Watty
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Maybe separate people but joined at the pen.
I sometimes think we strive for the unachievable. Cohesive decision making is a thing of the past, as are strolls through the public parks on a Sunday,people are either working,glued to their pc's,tv's or mobiles.
People have more friends on FB or Tweeter but have no real friends with whom they can share their hopes and fears.
High Streets will fade into the mists of time as more and more people shop on line or at a out of town multi stores.
Town planners, plan without a thought for the damage they do to society. The slum clearance of the 60's & 70's is an example as whole communities were bulldozed and decimated.
So we look on these old films and stills with a tear in our eye remembering the hopes we once cherished for a better ,brighter future only for it to fail and not materialise.
Crypt,DTIZ, and now the Peoples Port etc
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Keith Sansum1
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BARRYW
The greengrocers i remember was calle scrivens.
barber called paramour south road where hairdressers now is
ehtherbert road spent a lot of my childhood
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Thats right Keith and the grocers on the corner opposite Scrivens was Gladdish.
That is fantastic , thank you so much for posting it .
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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Havelock Arms, Imperial Crown, Carriers Arms, Dewdrop Inn, King Edward, and The Eagle if you fancied a trip into town - hic!
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