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You may be on to something Kath, one does not become a ship owner overnight. The Ismay's seem to be the salt-of-the-earth types.
We can all be a mite too pernickety where the Titanic is involved. I remember the guffaws of derision when the 'big' movie came out that it displayed all four funnels smoking, when as we all know the aft-most funnel was a store-room for deck furniture, but in the picture above #14 and on almost every occasion when the ship was depicted under steam, great efforts were made to make it seem that all four funnels were hard at it.
There is one aspect of all this that is with us still. The Titanic had all the safety apparatus and life boats it was legally obliged to have. Tax-toyers please note.
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We were on the Balmoral on it's first season after being bought by Fred Olsen and completely overhauled - and still all the engines stopped in the middle of the Baltic with the same problem that caused a recent fire in a cruise ship off the Phillipines. Hope this cruise have more luck!
Ok im ready to be shot down here by all this of the titantic to me is a bit morbid why keep making films showing programs etc this was a massive tragedy not something i personally feel comfortable with keep seeing it shown i feel its in awful bad taste . just my opinion
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The Titanic is actually one of many tragedies where ships have come to grief but I expect it was noteworthy because it was so large and it was its maiden voyage.
So many ships, including fishing vessels, have been lost in hazardous seas.
My gt-grandfather Thomas Russell, was a master mariner who was lost with all hands, on the Rosalind barque from Grimsby (where he lived), THOUGHT to have been caught in a cyclone which was raging in the Gulf of Mexico at the time. The family waited, and waited, and waited but he never came back. My grandmother was aged 6 (next to youngest), and Thomas left a grieving widow and 11 sons and daughters. When she was young she remembered nothing but tears.
That was in 1889. Some years earlier he had, in a sailing ship called the "Ferdinand de Lesseps" carried stone for the (failed attempt) at building the Panama Canal and was a very experienced navigator and mariner.
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This was my gt-grandfather who was lost at sea:
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The SS Ferdinand de Lesseps. Interestingly there is a W Russel noted at 20 on this list...
http://www.immigrantships.net/v3/1800v3/ferdinanddelesseps18800513.html
Was that ship named after this fellow...
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18 May 1889 ROSALIND Missing since 18 May 1889 and presumed lost on
Yucatan coast in a cyclone ( there is doubt as to exact date)
http://www.nelincs.gov.uk/GetAsset.aspx?id...
The link, if it works, is a pdf list of all the Grimsby listed ships lost from 1824 to 1988. I did not find anything else. :(
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Thanks Tom, that's the one, but I couldn't get the link to work. He was finally, with all the crew, presumed lost in October 1889.
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roger,the logo is on the funnel and showed clearly in the news report.
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Just to mark the day The Titanic went down. This is the very day 100 years ago.
....and the band played on...
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Watching the news this morning from the Balmoral, the clergyman who will conduct the service said that it "will bring closure", I sincerely hope it will.
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#30
Again with the four smokers?!
http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_funnels.shtml
Yes Jan, let's hope so. Davy Jones' locker contains no end of ships.
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I recently read of one of the stewards (who's name I forget at the moment) who was woken by the collision and went up on deck to see what had happened. Once he had seen the ice and everyone going about their business he went back to bed. As luck, certainly for him, would have it, he was woken about an hour later by the noise of people running about. Going back on deck and discovering that all the lifeboats had gone he put on a life-jacket, slipped into the water (his word but by that time the bow would have been close to the water line) and managed to swim out to one.
My own great aunt (on my mothers side), listed on the passenger list as "and maid", survived because her employer gave her her seat in the lifeboat, preferring to stay with her husband, and entrusted her to deliver her jewelry box to her family.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
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Apparently the employees wages stopped at the time of the sinking
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Only two years to go for the Lusitania centenary.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
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Quite right KeithB. The moment the ship sank the seamen were off the books. The same with all other ships too.
Here is something on the sportsmen aboard the Titanic...
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The liner shown above in #30 is actually the Aquitania, the legendary Cunarder known as the Grand Old Lady of the Atlantic, or The Ship Beautiful from her lavish interior furnishings.
Built in 1913 and not scrapped until 1950. Armed Merchant Cruiser then Hospital Ship and troopship in WW1, troopship in WW2. Mainstay of the transatlantic run between the wars together with the Mauretania and Berengaria.
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Well I'm gobsmacked Ed...the programme on TV showed that ship as being the Titanic. We were awash with programmes on the topic of Titanic so maybe a layer of fatigued bewilderment set in. Great to have our nautical expert to hand...many thanks Ed.
