howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 December 2010
20:1183624#1
i see he has been remanded in custody after requests from the swedish authorities.
all seems decidedly dodgy on the face of it, the chief prosecutor in sweden threw out the original case, then a politician got involved and things changed.
sweden is lap dog of america, allowing rendition flights landing on their soil, many people think that the c.i.a. have a hand in this prosecution.
i keep reading that he could be prosecuted in every other country for the leaks.
why? he did not steal the information, others have passed the stuff on to him and he heads a group that publishes it.
it is not libellous!!
the dead hand of the world leaders seem to be involved, first paypal refused to handle any money, now it is mastercard and visa.
stalin and his secret police had nothing on todays united states.
Brian Dixon
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7 December 2010
20:4483627#2
swedan is not the contry thats a lap dog howard the uk is as well.and i agree with your last paragrah.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 December 2010
21:4083633#3
glad you see it that way too brian.
it seems that the "land of the free" have moved on from being the world's police to being the world's police state.
i find it amusing that they are trying to bring china into line over exchange rates and trade in general, also decrying their human rights record.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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7 December 2010
22:0683636#4
May-be there are laws of privacy that prohibit people being exposed to the public for something personal. To leak information could interfere with these laws, particularly if the facts exposed do not refere to illegal conduct.
Jan Higgins
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7 December 2010
23:1983640#5
I have not seen a complete news report only bits here and there as a result might have missed something.
What I have found a little convenient is the timing of the Swedish charges or is my suspicious mind being over active again.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 December 2010
23:2483642#6
exactly my point jan, add all the other things together and it seems like a c.i.a. fit up.
8 December 2010
00:0583643#7
Howard,
WHether you think Sweden is a lap dog of America is irrelevant, or any other country for that matter.
If I were you I would be more concerned that the press club in London gave this man sanctuary whilst a legal arrest warrent was in force. I am not going to express an opinion on the Interpol warrent as I am not aware of the facts,
What does leave me with a feeling of unease is the fact that the press club decided that it was more important to deny the law being carried out because he was a bigger story over "Wikileaks" rather than the fact that allegations of rape and sexual assualt have been brought against him. It is for the Swedish courts to decide about that not the press club in London. Are you seriously suggesting that his notoriety over this leaks business is more important than his notoriety as a possible rapist???
8 December 2010
00:1283644#8
Jan,
Yes your suspicious mind has been over active again!!
8 December 2010
00:2183646#9
I really am appalled by the anti-American opinions expressed here by some seriously biggoted minds
I have to ask "Just what is your collective problem with America"
And before you spring to your key boards just have the grace to stop and think what are your objections.
Do try and remember the war ended in 1945, the americans are not over here, over sexed, or any other stupidity you can think of. Your collective problems with America are in your own small prejudiced minds. What a shame, I would have thought people on this forum would take the time to think about things
Ross Miller
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8 December 2010
01:4183647#10
Re wikileaks - this is from the IT press
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/07/assange_rejects_extradition/ for the full story as it has unfolded follow the links at the bottom of the page.
I would also say it is worth skimming through the comments as there are some interesting views expressed
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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8 December 2010
07:4983650#11
jimmy old chap,not every one is bigoted.its an opinion in genral that the yanks are over bearing bunch of toerags who want to dominate the world to there own ends.
hitler,stalin etc spring to mind when you think what america is doing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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8 December 2010
10:5983669#12
jimmy
the swedish prosecutor stated that there was no case to answer.
it was only when the poitical pressure came in that prosecution was made.
8 December 2010
13:0383683#13
Why does it always have to get nasty when you lot discuss politics? Most seem able to discuss matters fairly dispassionately and objectively and then you get someone who comes along and goes right off on one!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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8 December 2010
13:1183687#14
The USA have no quarrel with Britain, and do not interfere with our national Sovereign rights. Sneaky weekileak freak sems to be in trouble, must have considered himself above the law!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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8 December 2010
13:1583689#15
Brian, you might find that the Americans have been dragged into wars that were triggered off by others. Anti-Americanism won't appeal to the British People, once again your on a lone-goer there!
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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8 December 2010
13:4183692#16
Diana, how right you are but there are some who seem to think it is ok and call it discussion by way of an excuse. To me most of the political bods on here are like children who have to have the last word so it becomes a battle of words.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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8 December 2010
13:5483693#17
alex
anti american feeling is rife all around the world.
we now find they are bombing in yemen with the approval of the yemeni government, today we find that they bombed an afghan village killing 90, about half were children, then claimed they killed militants.
as a guide to what ordinary americans think about their government, in an online poll for "time" magazine, the favourite for man of the year is mr assange.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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8 December 2010
16:2383703#18
alex,they also started a few,iraq being the most resant.and not forgetting grenadier etc,etc,and then we the brits get draged in because they cant cope with what they started.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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8 December 2010
16:3483705#19
Alex, as one example, when Wilson was PM America wanted us to join them in Vietnam or they would not prop-up the pound. Wilson chose to stay out of Vietnam and devalue the pound - bluff called. Since then they have dragged us into every war they fought and yet stayed out of any involvement in the Falklands.
Howard, I quite agree. There is no quicker way of attempting to destroy a reputation than accusations of sexual misbehaviour as the press linger over the supposed details and rarely publish any retractions or apologies should the accused be found in innocent.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
8 December 2010
23:5183758#20
Howard,
Dont be so nieve, we the british were bombing in Yemen back in the sixties so it is not something new.
What does seem new is that people like you are so sheet head loving bigots I just hope you do not attend any remembrance services for our boys killed. Would be rather cynical dont you think??
Seems a shame you seem more concerned about the Afghans than you seem to be about the American and British casualties