Brian Dixon
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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God help us all, will the last person to leave the UK switch off the lights....
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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will do baz,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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if we take your argument to its logical conclusion barry, why do we have a chancellor that has a degree in modern history but no economic qualifications?
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Howard I'd imagine that the chancellor is surrounded by people with financial expertise .....Alexander has Google*.... (*other search engines are available)
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Howard. That is nothing to do with the clearly demonstrated economic ignorance displayed by Alexander in last post.
There have been many Chancellors, good and bad, who have not had economic qualifications but they have had good (or bad) judgement and do at least take time to understand something about what they are talking about and listen to advisers and other who do know what they are talking about.
No matter how patient we are (Ross, Peter, me and Paul) in explaining to Alexander how the economy actually works he just ignores it and persists with his fantasy.
Keith Sansum1
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whilst i may disagree with alexanded i continue to suppoprt his right to post without ridicule
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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No, Barry!
Ross, Peter and Paul haven't attempted to explain to me how the economy works.
They have only expressed some views to me on individual aspects.
No-one on this Forum has ever attempted to give the comprehensive all-encompassing explanations in economy which you give. You are alone in this attempt, and for all that we may admire your efforts, we can all see the economy which you believe in crumbling from its very foundations.
It is all getting much worse, not better.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Between us Alexander we have been repeatedly correcting your misunderstanding on the economy and tried very patiently to explain matters and you just persist in repeating a fantasy. It is very much the same over other matters where other people have had the same problem.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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alexander;
here we disagree, barryw has given his own full fronted full info on his view on the economy, whilst i may not share his vision, he has given full explanation.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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That's what I said, Keith: Barry has given a full explanation of economy, not Peter, Paul and Ross, who, like me and you, have a more limited explanation to give.
My point was, for all that I read Barry's explanations, they do not convince me, not least because the economy is collapsing all round us
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Think BarryW is explaining very well the huge flaws in your 'ideas' so we don't need to elaborate....
Been nice knowing you :)
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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going round and round
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Although the tabloids would like us to believe it, the economy is not 'collapsing all around us', economic activity is now at about 95% of what it was at the peak of the boom. I don't call that a collapse. We should get it into perspectiv e.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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peter;
the cuts are hurting, and still 80% of cuts to come
the economy is in the ship
lets be honest geezer
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The cuts are helping....
They are stopping sky high interest rates and an even bigger debt problem on the scale of souther Europe. We need more, faster.... to enable the burden on businesses to be reduced more.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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good god barry your getting an endless.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Barry doesn't realise that the more you take away income from people, the less they will invest in the economy, which goes into a spiral nose-fall as a result and cannot recover.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Alexander - the problem with your argument is the dynamics. If that income that, according to you, is not taken away from people one way then it is taken away in another way. Deficit funding to provide income to people not to work for instance at the cost of higher interest rates paid by those that do work and pay taxes is hardly a sensible route. The economy will find its level and you pay one way or another. The basic rule applies, if you spend too much then cut your spending.
Remember Alexander - every action has a reaction. The actions we need are those that will feed into boosting the profit making wealth creating part of the economy in order to get economic growth, generate jobs and more tax revenue. The public sector is a consumer of wealth not a wealth creator. It does contribute towards the national wealth up to a point but beyond that it simply becomes an ever increasing burden. It is now far beyond that point and remains far too large a proportion of the economy to be sustainable.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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So in other words, Barry, you are saying the Government should stop paying jobseekers allowance and housing benefit.
My God!
