Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Boris Johnson will lead them at the next GE Keith, he's busy looking for a safe seat.
The powers that be know Camerons a loser, they have no choice yet but he'll be gone.
Interesting if Barry agrees with me
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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boris would lose all credibility if he done an about face now, besides he likes the glamour job of being the london mayor.
in a recent poll of party chairmen on his suitability as party leader he didn't do very well, most see him as all style and no substance.
i am inclined to agree with them, should he ever get to be leader he would have to bone up on policy detail, not his strongest point.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Howard, policy is irrelevant to the electorate its all about personality and people love Boris.
He won't be any good, but thats not the point.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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david
he is worse than your namesake for wanting to be popular, i shudder to think what policies he would come out with.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Its a politician thing Howard, they are all vain attention seekers.
I've no idea what his policies would be, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't attract me, my point is the GE is like the X factor and Boris makes great TV, he's very popular.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 381 #383 #385....agree.......unfortunately the same applies to Romney......TV has the power.....
Keith Sansum1
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David
in light of no reply yet from our barry, i think the mouse will still be there to lose the next election,
to my way of thinking boris is an ok type of maverick but, please not to lead the country,
i dont think he would get the support.
willy hague would be the one that would realy make a difference
but was he damaged enough over his baseball cap fiasco?
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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More problems for Cameron, unless he asserts his authority he'll be gone long before the GE.
Not sure Barry's view, he's far more in tune with tories than me, but I sense he's on thin ice.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Thats Cameron ice of course, not Barry
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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hague is probably the most respected blue politician in the country, i doubt he would want the job though.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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He had his chance Howard
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i don't think he did david, he was brought in as a young man with the intention of rebuilding the party in 1997, no blue leader would have won in 2001.
i always got the impression that his advisers set out to make him look daft what with the baseball cap and the "i used to drink 40 pints a night" quote.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Advisers eh Howard, doesn't that sum up the ghastly state of our politics. You can be sure if Hsague was leader all that would be dragged back up.
As I've said I have no knowledge of tory intentions, I'm sure Barry does, history tells us they'll get rid of weak leaders.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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May 2015 - Cameron narrowly loses GE. Miliminor forms minority government without Lib support.
May 2016 - Boris steps down as Mayor.
Late 2016 - Boris stands in by-election and becomes an MP.
Early 2017 - 'long knives' come out for Cameron and Boris becomes Tory leader.
Late 2017 - Miliminor loses confidence vote, forcing GE. Boris wins by a landslide. Hague Deputy PM.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Plausible prediction......one caveat......Early 2017....David Mjlliband `returns`
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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reaL world predictions;
may 2015 the mouse loses G E by a slim majority, unable to form govt, lib dems at same time nearly wiped out
completely of MP's. liberals also baying for leaders scalp, although its made easier now by cleggy losing
his seat.
may 2015 lib dems in melt down, cable trys to reassure party but party turns in on itself
may 2015 after a lot of talkiing between parties milliband(largest party) goes in alone forming the govt.
May 2015 Tories turn on the mouse with a number of prominent high flying tories explaining why the mouse
lost the tories the chance of another 5 years.
june 2015; stalking horse is put up to oppose the mouse, in the weeks leading up to the closing date lots of
tories start to build alliances with those they think could take the mouse out
in the open warfare that continues boris announces that he has given a lot of thought into standing
and announces his immediate resignation as mayor of london and is successful in a safe tory seat
to become MP, he quickly then enters the race for the leadership which has just the mouse and 2 others
standing.
july 2015; the mouse comes out to make speech just prior to having to go for selection against boris and one other
And announces he has given it his best shot, but is time to stand down.
july 2015 boris becomes the clear favourite to win the leadership beauty contest and does with a landslide
victory.
sept 2015; 3 safe tory seats lost to labour in bye elections 2 caused by deaths of the sitting mp's the other by
the sitting mp announcing the tories out of touch and run by toffs.
oct 2015; david milliband joins the labour cabinet a welcome adittion and labour becomes stronger because of it
nov 2015; there appear to be no signs of recovery from boris or the tories and the hype of being mayor in london
does not appear to be working in other parts of the country.
labour go on winning bye elections
2020'
labour get in by a majority of 35 and sail through another 5 years
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Thats a not a prediction thats a wish list
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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David's right - dream on Keith.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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should the electoral boundaries stay as they are i would be very surprised if the reds didn't have a clear majority at the next hustings despite the two eds.
Brian Dixon
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two eds are better than one howard.
