Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#1
The new hospital
I see the picture of the new hospital in the Dover rag .
I could be wrong but it lookalike it's a clad building?
Many building these days are being built with one brick internal skin ,
then they fix polystyrene to it and render it with a thin cheep gritty material .
I think this building design has a life of 50 years;
In comparison a brick 2 skin grade 1 brick building would last 3 or 4 hundred years
Maybe some of the counsellors on this site can have a look at one ,
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#2
I was told at a NHS meeting it will be brick and moter,all I can tell you
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#3
Is this internal and external brick work Vick ?
If it's a 2 brick skin system they could, if need be increase the height , ad floors expand up
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#4
most of us are more concerned with what is inside rather than outside keith.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#5
Yes agree Howard ,but do they need to be closing it in 50 years for big expensive works .
Get it right first time I say
Guest 803- Registered: 28 Oct 2012
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#6
Nightingale's the architects for this project tend to use Sto Render or colored bricks on their projects. So I think you will find it will be double wall construction. Internally it will probably be metal stud partition wall to keep costs down.
As the Trust has to meet BREAM requirements for either good or excellent on their new builds it will be highly insulated etc to comply.
What will be or more concern is the cost to enable this build to go ahead.
It is being build over the Coombe Valley air raid shelter which occupies most of the lower car park. This will need to be completely excavated and back filled.
The existing steam boilers are going to have to be removed and temporary boilers hired in to keep the remaining site heated. Which is not going to be a cheap task. One of the generators is also located in the boiler house, so some temporary reconfiguration will again have to be provided.
However the main concern should be making the new build secure. So much vandalism has taken place on the Existing site over recent years I wonder how much the builders will loose and how soon it will be before the new build is broken into or damaged and defaced.
Really this site should not be built on, but only time will tell.
Len
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#7
I think the above post said it all and more.MR Hopps knows more then me.
Keith Sansum1
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#8
I think howard is right, what goes on inside is a bigger question
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DT1- Location: Dover
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#9
I doubt it will be one set type of construction. It will probably be a mixture.
As Len suggests, this is a minimal concern.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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#10
it's a polyclinic and not a hospital.still might evan get a large portocabin to comptliment the one up folkestone road yet.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#11
# 6 .....the last sentence is spot on.......it is the most inappropriate site........expedient collusion between
Dover District Council and EKHT.......
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#12
funny you should mention the portacabin brian i had almost forgotten it was there.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#13
yeah i know you did howard,thats what the polyclinic is going to look like but bigger.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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#14
#11 Is total fantasy. DDC's position has consistently been any site but existing.
What do we finish up with where EKFUT wanted it from the start.
Watty
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#15
Is that EKHUFT, Paul? A couple of apposite anagrams available there.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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#16
I'll leave you to come up with your own conclusions Peter. Another unaccountable organisation to local opinion.
Watty
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#17
I am looking forward to the day it opens it will save both mywife and myself going all over Eastv Kent for a outpatient appointment,but even better still for members that have to go by Bus taking a round trip up to 5 hours.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#18
Even as a layman I can see holes in the new hospital's menu of services. On the list is phlebotomies. Since my wife had to be blue-lighted to Ashford after a phlebotomy at Buckland went wrong about 2 years ago, EKHUFT have a policy of not carrying them out unless there is a resus unit on site. Where's the resus unit in the new hospital?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#19
i cannot work out how the long list of services being offered will fit into the building planned.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#20
Maybe that can be added Peter.
Roger
