Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
20 February 2011
13:1093479Someone sent me this link,
http://www.fairfueluk.com/
Worth a look.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
20 February 2011
16:0993502the department of transport issued some figures on transport costs in real terms against those 30 years ago.
cannot find the article now but roughly rail and bus travel had risen by over 50% and the cost of private motoring had fallen by a small amount.
20 February 2011
20:1793528Well i think the cost of rail fares is scandalous considering the rail schedule from Deal is worse then ever , the price of a ticket makes it cheaper to use the car, and the reliability of the train service is poor
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
20 February 2011
20:3593539rather disturbing to read that, i take it that trevor means it is cheaper for one person to use the private car than travel by rail.
we all know that if 3 or more are travellling together the car is always the best option.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
20 February 2011
22:0293578We are not going out like we did last year the cost of fuel is just to high ,we like going out to see the family etc but just can not do it now. I am thinking of going to the City of Stoke by bus next time but it takes so long to get there and back again means staying overnight so I would not save by doing it.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 5,673
20 February 2011
23:0193590i do the m20 every working day, get about 60mpg and that is still just under 10p per mile so still cheaper than the train
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
21 February 2011
07:4993596You must have a small car then Paul ?
My trouble is that I prefer a big(ger) car, not for snobby reasons, just prefer them, but with petrol at its present cost and going higher, it'll get more and more expensive.
Jean says I have a rich-man's car (it's a Volvo S80), without a rich-man's money - and it's true, but a great car to drive and be safe in.
Roger
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
21 February 2011
08:2893604When I worked in London in the mid-90s I was commuting daily from Canterbury in a Volvo 260 3-litre at 17 mpg. I bought a brand new Citroen AX diesel (65mpg) and the fuel savings paid for the car in less than 2 years. 2 gallons of diesel a day instead of 7 gallons of 4* petrol.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 5,673
21 February 2011
09:2893609i have a citroen C3 - i need to use the driving seat, the rest is a waste to have to spend money moving around !
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
21 February 2011
10:4193614Just checked the price of a one-way rail ticket Dover to Stansted for some guests. £44.90 on HS1, £39.10 on the old line.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 686- Registered: 5 May 2009
- Posts: 556
21 February 2011
10:4393616Slightly off topic...
Roger wrote in Post #7: "(it's a Volvo S80)"
"It's not WHAT you drive, it's the way that you drive it!". In my experience Volvo drivers tend to think they're so safe and snug in their reinforced steel box that they can ignore other road users - especially bikers. Many tales I hear of SMIDSY incidents involving bikers invariably have an element of "Volvo Driver Syndrom" as it has become known. I have a feeling that Volvos have large blind spots caused by wide front and center pillars which also means that their drivers don't take proper care to check the areas they can't see properly before making road position changes.
This isn't a poke at Roger, just Volvo drivers in general.
On topic...
Most vehicles will obtain good mileage figures "cruising" on open motorways because the engine is working more efficiently. It's the short stop-start journeys around town that drink the juice. From my own fuel consumption figures over the years (for my ST1100 and ST1300 PanEuropean) I normally average around 43 mpg but on a long motorway hike this goes up to close to 70 mpg.
Phil West
If at first you don't succeed, use a BIGGER hammer!!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
21 February 2011
13:4593637I like to think I'm not a "Volvo driver", just a driver Phil, I didn't think you were taking a poke at me; I didn't even know there was a Volvo syndrome.
Roger
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
21 February 2011
13:5393638Have you never been to Hendon Roger? Or Golders Green?
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
21 February 2011
13:5693639that thing about volvo drivers started about 20 years ago, the widely held view among motorists was that they took more risks because they thought that nothing much would happen to them personally in the event of an accident.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
22 February 2011
07:3893750Yes Terry, but that's a different syndrome isn't it ?
The Hasidic (?) Jewish community around Stamford Hill had Volvos, I used to drive that way home from work - good people, great cars, but I never thought they were the kind of car I would like to own as I didn't like the box-on-wheels look.
The S80 is a good looking car, but it's the Volvo syndrome that Phil talks about that I'd never heard of.
Anyone wanna buy a Volvo ?
Roger
Guest 702- Registered: 9 Jul 2010
- Posts: 241
22 February 2011
09:3493765Paul, I have a diesel C4 which will achieve 55+ mpg with mixed use, on long trips it will often record nearer 60 mpg. Like Phil says, the way a car is driven is one of the biggest influences on fuel use.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
22 February 2011
18:3593819Sometimes Volvo drivers have delusions,
Apologies to those who remember it from a previous thread.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
22 February 2011
18:4393821the owner lives a few doors from me, never met him(i assume it is a him).
the car is there most times of the day, whenever i go past.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
23 February 2011
07:2993862And apologies for those Forum members who have a Volvo and occasionally visit Blakes for a drink or two Peter ??
Roger
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
23 February 2011
09:4893870Sorry Roger! I had a Volvo once.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
