Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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18 August 2010
20:2966103Well what was I saying this will not help the ferry companys .
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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18 August 2010
20:3566105Not sure I see your point, Vic. Competition is good for the consumer, but at the end of the day these trains will attract a different market to the ferries. The ferries will continue to be the first choice for HGVs and people travelling by car (ro-ro trade). Eurostar, and any potential new operator to Germany, appeal to those who are looking to travel without vehicles from city centre to city centre.
Terry Nunn
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18 August 2010
20:3966109Spot on Kevin. This is strictly "foot passenger", something that Dover doesn't do well.
Terry
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18 August 2010
20:4066110Fast city centre to city centre rail services impact low cost and scheduled airlines, not ferry company's. Also, travel on an inbound ferry and you can probably count the nonHGV JF's on one hand.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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18 August 2010
21:0666118Kevin log into my "Is it a big con " and you will see the true story about the port.
Ross Miller
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18 August 2010
21:3766122The ICEs are fantastic trains used them or the Thalys when I lived in Brussels and wanted to go to Germany
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Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
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7 October 2010
09:3474032It seems that DB plan to run through to St Pancras on October 19th using an ICE3, provided of course that it gets a saftey clearance. If I can get the timings I might camp out somewhere to spot it. If all goes well then the plan is to use the new ICE4's from 2013 on a Frankfurt (Main) - Cologne - London service.
The ICE4 is in fact a Siemans "Velaro D" capable of 198mph and is multi current to allow it travel anywhere in standard gauge mainland Europe using 25, 15, 3 and 1.5 kV supplies.
Terry
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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8 October 2010
20:0674300I see that Eurostar have also unveiled their new trains and are commencing refurbishment of their existing fleet. the new trains are designed to be able to run through to Amsterdam, various German cities etc. The existing stock is being refurbished by Pininafarina.
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Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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8 October 2010
20:3174302Interesting that Ross. Now wouldn`t you think, that in this day of euro this, euro that, euro every f`in thing, that a passenger railway service would be running between here and the rest of Europe, or the french eurostar`s after more than 15 years would be running to Amsterdam and Germany????? Coaches and airline`s do, and have done since the wheel was invented! As you can see, my blood pressure`s rising here What is it about the railways that make political parties of every fancy colour you can think of, anti-railway? I know why, and it`s another reason why I have not voted for years. I`ve got no time for the lot of them!! Time to log off and go and read what life is really about.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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9 October 2010
01:2174315Well Colin how about the following High Speed internatioanl services/providers:
Since 1996 there has been the Thalys service that runs between Brussels and Paris, Amsterdam, Cologne - also calling at such places as Antwerp, Bruge, Ghent, Liege, Mons, Namur, Zavantem, Aachen, Charles de Gaulle, Schiphol and Rotterdam.
The TGV operates throughout France and also runs services to Brussels, Switzerland, Germany (Frankfurt, Munich & Stuttgart) and North Eastern Italy.
Austrian Railways runs the RailJet high speed service from Budapest to Munich via Vienna and the Vienna - Salzburg - Zurich route with more planned.
Deutsche Bahn has run the ICE services throughout Germany since 1989 and to Basel, Zurich, Innsbruck, Brussels, Liege, Amsterdam, Paris, Aarhus, Copenhagen & Vienna.
In addition to these there all the EuroCity services run by most train operators throughout Europe
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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
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