Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#3
Mais c'est absurd!
So let's drive other countries into bankruptcy then, get hordes of cash over to Britain, and let the whole world go bankrupt!
I've seen and heard enough.
Whatever Bern's FSS means, a gin and double tonic might be the best medicine here, but I'll keep to my usual can of cider.
Best of luck to you Barry and happy dreams, but our trains are definitely going in two opposite directions.
Keith Sansum1
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#4
we have a problem,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#6
Oh Dear this is another clanger from Francis Maude. A tax haven is a place where the rich hide their money in an effort to pay no taxes on it whatsoever.. no matter where it was made/earnt. You can park your mega yacht amongst the other mega yachts but do you build a factory offering jobs..how many factories in the Channel islands, in the Cayman Islands..??
Or even in Monaco. I spent some time in Monte Carlo, and very nice too. But people just hide their massive wealth there and enjoy it. They dont do anything with it..other than flounce around in some considerable style.
We will have to see if the reduction in the 50p tax rate brings more jobs here...it really is a tenous link..saying that one equates to the other, but we will have to wait and see.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#8
PaulB - there is a lot more to a tax haven than that. It also certainly does not just mean nil tax. What he is talking about are corporate headquarters as well as the wealthy coming here. I would rather, say, 10% of large sum coming into the country than 50% of nothing.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#9
I had a dream ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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#10
If tax havens are something to aspire to, then why do so many tax havens have problems with poverty and inequality?
There are obvious exceptions in Europe, but let's face it many are just about exploitation, an unfortunate side effect of greed.
Barry talks about envy, which is also another worrying side effect of inequality, merely on the other side.
It's all well and good saying that the gap between rich and poor must be addressed by bringing the lower portion of earners up, but how do you do this when they are metaphorically (and literally in some cases) wiping the backsides of the tax dodgers that strive to keep their wages down.
Many humanitarian organisations recognise the effects that these havens have on the poor...and it isn't good.
NB: I have used the term 'good' in the altruistic sense, and not the new meaning defined by Capitalists...who basically use it to assess whether or not they are OK!
DT1- Location: Dover
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#18
Is that a good or bad thing Howard? I get confused. We get a huge amount of gas from these guys...so it must be 'good' surely? ...and without it old people couldn't boost profits for Centrica, which is good for growth? Centrica will then employ more people...yes?
Barry agreed, but as we know Mr Blair and Mr Livingstone are just as bad as many of them. It still makes it all unacceptable.
NB. 'unacceptable' falls into the same bracket of interpretation as 'good'
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#19
DT1
Please be assured(by barryw)we are all in this together.
its fine for the rich to get richer(they work for it lol) whilst the poor get poorer.
theres no injustice lol
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