Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
For anyone who has a tendency to put their cigarette out by standing on it and not pick it up.
Do this in Maidstone and you will get a £75 fine as somebody found out today, they were fined for littering. Admittedly they should not have done it but I think £75 is excessive, speeding and overstay parking costs less so I have been told.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i seem to remember a long while back that maidstone gave away cigarette stubbers to all who arrived at the main railway and bus stations and council car parks, so there is no excuse for littering.
having said that it does not quite deserve more punishment than speeding.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Another way of clobbering the working man and putting money into the coffers. How about starting with the fast food outlets whose rubbish strewns the town most days. Make them more liable and responsible.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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fine as much as the others or increase the other fines
but yep uim all for prosecutions
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Fine the lot of the litterers! Why should stinky fag-butts be less offensive than other litter?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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careful bern we agree again
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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Bern they shouldnt, but I have yet to see one person fined for dropping a fast food carton, the contents of their burger, the plethora of flyers handed out in most main streets these days, sweet wrappers etc.
I am all for fining people for littering, but lets make sure we are even handed in doing so
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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It was not that they got fined that I thought was wrong, it was the fact that a dropped fag end is deemed more important than speeding that shocked me.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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im for increasing the other fines if we feel there lower
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
what a terrable waste of time and effort,and 75 squid toboot as well.as a smoker i would like to see more rubbish bins with ash trays in the top.problem solved.
Speeding and littering are different misdemeanours! And yes, why not fine all the littering b'stards! But remember that it is sometimes possible to drop something inadvertently, while a smoker deliberately crushes that foul smelling thing into the floor and walks away. No ambiguity there......
And those ashtrays, brian, that are provided outside buildings - absolutely, better than nothing, but the stench! And everyone going into the building has to walk past them, and often has to walk past and through a fug of smoke!!
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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We all hate litter..well at least I hope so. I cannot recall ever dropping any litter 'cos it was drummed into me as a kid by my parents that it was wrong to do so. I have done the same with my kids and hope they follow their old mans example.
Litter is many things from gum,butts,fast food cartons,tins , settees and motor vehicles. Some of this rubbish can only have been 'dropped' by irresponsible adults .How are our kids supposed to act if they witness adults doing it. Litter,the effect on the enviroment and the cost should be part of the schools cirriculum in conjuction with their parents setting a good example.
Marek
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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bern you have to walk to close to them unless you have to.
speeding moterists should be fined heaverly [say 100 quid a time along with 6 points] but being a non driver it wont affect me.
What has motoring got to do with smoking? Unless of course you want to talk about the increased risks posed when drivers smoke at the wheel.............
And if you want to get into a building it is often inevitable that you will have to brave the fug of war.......
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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bern,either you or some one else compared the fine to speeding and the differance in the leval of fines paid.just putting the shoe on the other foot.
and besides that you know that i smoke.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Bern
Agreed
2 separate issues. When I walk past the boozers and clubs there are more customers spilling out onto the pavements having a quick drag then there are inside. Why oh why can't they all have one designated smoking room where they can inhale each others fumes and dump their fag ends instead of polluting and intimidating the pavements.
Marek
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
marek,the answer to it all will never be resloved,as both camps have dug there heels in.
those people who are fined will become repeat offenders.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
should anyone have seen the mattresses and sofas removed from the two alleyways today it would put the dog end issue into perspective.
Why should one relate to the other?
PS - as with any addiction, this will provoke much comment and denial!!!!!