howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#1
this is the waterfall next to morrison's, the new garden commissioned by the town council was badly littered to.
this was in the river next to the college.
there were many more examples of river dumping, thought i would just stick to two.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
- Posts: 8,115
#2
I was wondering what those sacks were on the river-bed, and thought they had been put there for a purpose, because they seem equally laid out, not that I could figure out for which purpose.
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 1,214
#3
First Dour clean up by the WCCP volunteers of the year is set for this Wednesday. These will be monthly until October. That should improve the state of affairs somewhat.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#4
saw the crap outside morrisons first thing this morning [0750].
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
#5
Appropriate thread title Howard - why are people such slobs and couldn't care less about where they live ?
How do you instill a sense of pride in them ? It may have a bit to do with the "broken-window" syndrome, or it may have something to do with a broken society syndrome.
Some people care passionately about where they live and have standards and work hard to keep them up, but others (slobs) have no standards and don't give a toss about anything, only themselves - very sad.
Roger
Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,321
#6
Spotted on my early morning dog patrol today, at least it's got a warning cone!
High Meadow.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#7
The effort they must have gone to to take it there.
Roger
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
- Posts: 7,819
#8
Those pictures really make the point..fairly awful to see this kind of thing. People do the same thing on the beach but fortunately we have a great team of cleaners down here. I imagine they are from the Dover Harbour Board but they really do a great job of keeping everything pristine.
But this just reminds me of something I saw the other day...
The Premier Inn carpark. The coach driver sweeps his rubbish out onto the street...I assumed he was going to pick it up as he was fastidious and taking a long time about things. I went off about my business but when I looked later the rubbish was still there but the coach/driver was gone..
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#9
Easy Paul, complain to the company with pictures enclosed plus date and time, the driver should receive a ticking off.
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Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,321
#10
I did leave that vague Roger, it is in fact just off the car park of the High Meadow flats so they didn't actually take it far!
Two things here really, littering and the theft of a trolley!
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#11
There are no excuses for slobbishness. But, at the risk of getting political (a small party of you may, if you wish, assemble later and throw eggs at me...) there really is something about doing things that achieve engagement and inclusion rather than punishing. Without boring you (too late!!) an example of this is imprisonment: using prison as a punishment is a good thing, a grave sanction - but if we really want to reduce reoffending or reduce slobbish behaviour like the above, we need to make sure people are responsible for their environment, and no amount of banging up will do that, whatever we like to think. After - and during - the punishment must come the engagement with people. Some will be a lost cause, but lots won't be. If we really, truly want to change things ragther than just punish people, we need to change how we do that.
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
- Posts: 2,119
#12
I could go on and on and on and on.
No point no one listens, you could be on the phone all day long, they hear but do not do anything.
I have photos of dogs crapping and the owners walk off, people illegal fishing, you name it iv'e got it.
WHY bother.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
#13
BarryW has a fetching picture of some Stocks on Facebook - let's club together...........
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
#14
Ian
Those photos could be used to prosecute that person; I'd be happy to follow it up - if you'd like me to.
Roger
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
- Posts: 2,119
#15
No way Pedro ( or hose )
however you prefer it.
Roger Iv'e been at this game for as long as you can remember, where has it got me in the past?
If the past is anything to go by then why the hell should the future count.?
Whinge over.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
- Posts: 8,115
#16
Re. post 12: the dogs were excercising a necessity of nature.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#17
I understand your frustration Ian, but while there may have been no action before, we do need to sort it out.
Thanks for the photo Alexander, but was it picked up and put in an appropriate receptacle - ie a bin - any litter bin will do ?
Everyone I speak to about dog-poo says the irresponsible dog-owners are a disgrace, but still we can't reduce it.
Breaking through the ignorant, lazy, disgusting habit of not picking it up, is very difficult.
Roger
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#18
Roger, the public toilets were closed!
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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#19
Put litter louts in the pillory, they deserve nothing better...
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Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#20
Looking at the above engraving Kath, it seems that the hand gesture 'High Five' originated in 'Ye Olde Englande'
