Guest 706- Registered: 25 Oct 2010
- Posts: 285
28 November 2010
18:0682135I try to see the good in all people but I am becoming increasingly bothered by watching some of our immigrant people blatantly shoplifting.
I saw it in three charity shops last week and today in Poundstretcher a couple opened the box of quite an expensive kitchen item and put it under their pushchair and then paid for a pack of baby wipes.
He looked too burley for me to challenge. And that bothers me too.
28 November 2010
18:5382138It is frustrating - when I managed a charity shop in nineteen-o-spit we had the same problem; times don't change that much. "Families" would come in with kids clutching various distracting things like greasy hot sausages, sticky lollies etc etc etc, and they were, at that time, made up, yes, of immigrant families but mainly of local indigenous "rough" families who often came to us direct from the dole office as was. The smell doesn't change though.........made up of unwashed bodies and clothes, it still takes me back.....
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
28 November 2010
19:0182140At Age Concern we have no end of problems with SOME immigrants and what we hope is their attempted shop lifting. The number of times we have seen them about to put stuff in their bags or pram hood are too numerous to count. We have found the best deterrent is to blatently follow them round the shop. The new distraction is the hordes of young children that spit up so you can't keep an eye on all of them, it is getting so bad we have discussed not letting more than two children in at a time.
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28 November 2010
19:1582143Good plan.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
28 November 2010
19:3382150many shops have a limit on how many children are allowed in the shop at one time.
stealing off of a charity shows the mentality of these people.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
- Posts: 3,205
28 November 2010
19:3382151That reminds me Penny I didn't pay for the coffee at your daughters place yesterday.Only joking
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
- Posts: 4,150
28 November 2010
19:5582158Any voluntary local kind hearted yobbos like to be store detectives and make life tough for these thieving immigrants?
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
29 November 2010
09:3682207Its disgusting that they think its all free over here its time we clamped down on them , have you seen an internet page called internet eyes? many shops around britain have signed up .
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
- Posts: 8,115
29 November 2010
16:2182267Penny, just diall 999 when you see 'em shoplifting. I would!
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
29 November 2010
16:2382268dont get me wrong here and class this as rasist,isnt there a muslem law dealing with this kind of thing.now which hand was it.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
- Posts: 2,868
29 November 2010
16:2482270So would I. Something has to be done, otherwise it will go on and on and on....
Put them in the stocks or pillory.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
29 November 2010
16:2982274maybe it would be an idea to join shop watch?
someone on here will know what it costs, i am sure.
29 November 2010
16:4082281Shop watch is an excellent idea. I think it is probably good to point out, as well, that not all immigrants are Muslim, not all Muslims are immigrants, not all immigrants steal and not all muslims steal. When I was in this situation it was almost always white poor "working" class nominally CofE people doing the nicking.
Guest 694- Registered: 22 Mar 2010
- Posts: 778
29 November 2010
16:4682285Heya Colin, i do know the costs as it was raised at the Mayors Business Forum meeting
Its about £3 a week, but has to be paid for up front which does put some people off.
I have a policy of just watching everyone and if I feel there are too many people and children I dont do fittings and ask them to book an appointment without the children. Seems to have worked for me.
I cant comment on the PS policy as was told by area manager I couldnt have it.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
29 November 2010
17:1782295not sure how religion entered this one, the criminal families involved are definitely not muslim.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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29 November 2010
17:3182299When we moved to Riyadh in 1979 it was all a bit strange. There was no English language TV so we decided to buy a Betamax video and TV. We went down to the electronic souk, as it was known, browsed round a few shops but could not decide on a TV. The shop owner said, take these two, try them both out, bring back the one you don't want and pay me for the one you keep after the weekend. He had never seen us before, we were new arrivals to his country, yet he trusted us with what was at the time several hundred pounds' worth of kit.
In a country where shoplifting is punished by amputation, people tend not only to be honest but to trust others as well. Lack of rigour in chasing up thieves leads to a contempt for law and order, and a contempt for other People's property. Somehow we need to reverse this in our country but sitting on the sidelines wringing our hands will not achieve anything.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 695- Registered: 30 Mar 2010
- Posts: 426
29 November 2010
17:4182301Have you still got that TV and Video you were selling off cheap Peter
29 November 2010
17:4782303Peter, it's all about consequences, as I keep saying!!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
29 November 2010
19:3582321I understood that Shopwatch/DPAC was £6.00 per week - including the phone.
When running the Dover Loyalty Scheme, I asked the Manager of DPAC is she would give members of DLS a discount if they joined, as she would instantly have many more members, but she said an emphatic NO.
Roger
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
29 November 2010
20:1382334Thanks roger - I was about to make the point that Shopwatch is not overly expensive and serves a very useful purpose in dealing with people like this - of course it does rely on the public advising the store staff and them reacting appropriately
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