Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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24 January 2011
13:0790067I heard on the radio that football presenters Andy Gray and Keyes made sexist remarks about a female assistant referee not knowing the off side rule....they forgot however to switch off their microphones and so their comments were broadcast live on Sky sports...oops
Marek
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 January 2011
13:2190071made themselves look a bit silly there, people are saying that it might put women off becoming referees or assistants, which is even sillier.
the abuse they will get from supporters and players means they will have to be as thick skinned as their male counterparts.
Jan Higgins
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24 January 2011
13:3590075Bit of a fuss about nothing in my opinion, the media must be bored.
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24 January 2011
14:1090079The unfortunate thing is the lady assist referee had a fantastic game, but instead of that being discussed it is the comments from Andy Gray that have stirred things up for the wrong reason. In my opinion that guy is a complete idiot who spoils the experience of watching games on Sky so i can only hope this helps to see the end of him.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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24 January 2011
14:1190081Well said Jan. This type of thing is complete nonsense and a storm in a teacup.
Keith Sansum1
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24 January 2011
14:1290082agreed paul h
shame he had to go this way
does now to help encourage
which would help footbsall in general
hes an ars*
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 January 2011
14:1390083i quite like andy gray but i did smile after it turned out that the lineslady got it right and gray got it wrong.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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24 January 2011
14:3490088They even has a phone-in on it this morning on the radio!
How boring would the world be if everyone though the same, had the same views, etc, etc
Been nice knowing you :)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 January 2011
16:1790096they reckon there is a lot of sexism in football.
i do not see a problem with female officials, just so long as their old man's dinner is on the table the minute he gets home.
24 January 2011
17:0490100My first thought was along the same lines as Jan and BarryW, but I have heard the comments now, and actually they were said in a derogatory way so are offensive. Regardless of whether they targeted women or any other group of people, the casual assumption of stereotypes and the rather dismissive and aggressive tone changed the context for me.
24 January 2011
17:0590101PS - slapped legs Howard...........
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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24 January 2011
17:1090104Bern - I think the difference it that they were jokey private banter that are only known about because mikes were left on. If directed at the ladies directly that would have been wrong.
We all enjoy a spot of light hearted banter about people now and again but would be mortified if they heard it.
PS - I do not watch football, cant stand the over-blown game. Could I explain the off-side rule, no way....even when I was reluctantly playing the game at school.
24 January 2011
17:1890105I am with you there - now, rugby.........mmmmmm......
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 January 2011
18:2190111the two culprits have been red carded by sky for tonight's match.
i think they are making a mountain out of ant hill here, even a storm in an egg cup out of it.
feel free to add any other mixed metaphors.
Brian Dixon
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25 January 2011
17:4390215i see andy grey has now been sacked for his remarks about the young lady linesman.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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25 January 2011
18:0090218Yes you are right Brian ...Andy Grey has been sacked from his near lifelong job at Sky Sports. I remember Andy Grey way back from his days as a player and although doing this job on Doverforum has made me aware of just how sensitive people can get over various topics, I think that Andy Grey being sacked over this from a near lifelong job thats given his fans lots of satisfaction and entertainment, sounds a wee bit extreme...I dunno.
I remember the controversial Ron Atkinson sacking several years back, when he used the term n*gger which was altogether more extreme, I think they were right to sack him in that case.
There is no doubt about it though this is a very sensitive era.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 January 2011
18:1590224there has been more revelations of statements made by andy gray, the man seems to have more lip than a mick jagger lookalike competition.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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25 January 2011
19:1690232Silly man does not know when to keep his thoughts to himself, it does seem that he has made sexist remarks before. His sacking seems a bit extreme but maybe the bosses have been waiting for just such an opportunity.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 January 2011
19:2090234he would have broken his terms of contract, they have a lot of women subscribers, hardly good for business.
england in general has more female match goers and amateur players than any other country, makes you wonder how the washing up ever gets done,
25 January 2011
20:4890246It seems to be more than simply a slip of the tongue or a blip, if we are to believe the other incidents that have been flagged up.